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Re: Bronzing


  • Subject: Re: Bronzing
  • From: Todd Shirley <email@hidden>
  • Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 15:34:21 -0400

And the winners are...

On Jun 5, 2008, at 7:07 PM, Terence Wyse wrote:

User as much black as you can (lots of GCR and start the black as early as possible, preferably 0%). Use as little of the light inks as you can, especially light magenta, assuming you have control of the light-dark ink transition. With ORIS Color Tuner, you might not have control over either of these issues.

AND

On Jun 5, 2008, at 6:51 PM, Robert Rock wrote:

I've been able to completely eliminate both gloss
differential AND bronzing by using coatings. They are usually available as a
spray OR a brush or roll on liquid. A good source is:
http://www.premierart.info/

By combining the above two suggestions, the gloss differential problem I've been seeing is almost completely eliminated. Thanks to everyone who wrote in, I learned a lot.


First I learned that my problem is gloss differential, NOT bronzing. There was just a specific area around the quarter tones that was way shinier than the rest of the proof. When looked at obliquely, that gloss does take on a bronze cast, so that's why I though it was bronzing. I also learned that ORIS Colortuner does have some control of GCR & black separation, but I can't control the individual inks, which is unfortunate. Even with max GCR/CMY reduction Colortuner still wants to put lots of CMY into neutrals, even when the input is pure black. This may be the only way it can hit the GRACoL_coated1 target, but the Ultrachrome K3 Photo black is supposed to reduce gloss differential and I don't think very much of it gets used in the problem areas.

By adjusting to max GCR I was able to reduce the gloss differential about 30-40% and then spraying on Priemier Art Printshield got rid of the rest. I'd rather not use a messy and somewhat toxic spray if I can avoid it, so I'm fishing for additional suggestions. Anyone?

-Todd Shirley
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 >Bronzing (From: Todd Shirley <email@hidden>)
 >Re: Bronzing (From: Terence Wyse <email@hidden>)

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