Re: unfavorable X-Rite ColorMunki experience
Re: unfavorable X-Rite ColorMunki experience
- Subject: Re: unfavorable X-Rite ColorMunki experience
- From: Andrew Rodney <email@hidden>
- Date: Thu, 08 May 2008 08:42:04 -0600
- Thread-topic: unfavorable X-Rite ColorMunki experience
On 5/8/08 8:22 AM, "edmund ronald" wrote:
> If anyone here has any pull with Adobe, then it might be time to
> request that their color geeks actually come to the ICC sessions and
> discuss interoperable workflows that normal humans can be expected to
> implement.
Just what "interoperable workflows that normal humans can be expected to
implement" would you be referring to that causes the pain points that Tom
hasn't suggested needs work on? I think he was pretty clear.
> As it stands, Adobe expect the rest of the world to magically provide
> them with a functioning environment as per ICC spec. But the rest of
> the world just plain cannot get that done without them.
Assuming this is true (and I don't buy it personally), what problems are you
hearing from a subsample of the tens of thousands of Adobe users who suggest
there's a problem here they(Adobe) need to address?
> I am now incapable of being *certain* of getting color-reliable prints
> from any Mac machine I own, when printing from Photoshop, as various
> system bugs, app bugs and printer driver bugs and sundry updates
> collide and interact from version to version.
Isn't that what Tom is hoping to accomplish based on his last post? Its
pretty clear there's a few print issues that need to be addressed.
> As for camera color,
> it's impossible to expect similar color from two different model
> cameras.This is appalling.
Its not appalling and its been something we've seen from day one in analog
photography, the world didn't explode because Kodachrome didn't produce the
exact color appearance as Velva nor could you be sure that two lens of the
same manufacturer produced identical color on the same film, shooting the
same scene (or that one batch of Agfachrome would match another). Or that
two E6 labs would produce the same chrome shot side by side on two different
cameras. Or that two printers of the same make produce identical color from
the same set of RGB numbers run though two different manufactures ICC
profiles!
I know you're not from the US, so let me just suggest that scare tactics and
alarmist rants don't bode well here anymore, and considering you're aiming
your target squarely at an American company, your message is getting mangled
and doesn't serve you well. Take a stress pill, clam down, get off the soap
box and define the problem, then some of us may take you more seriously.
Otherwise, I think all you'll accomplish in Tokyo is hopefully a good Sushi
dinner.
Andrew Rodney
http://www.digitaldog.net/
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