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Solvent/EcoSolvent Inks Profiling Issues


  • Subject: Solvent/EcoSolvent Inks Profiling Issues
  • From: Curtis Lea <email@hidden>
  • Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2008 15:04:16 -0700

I have been profiling my large format printers for years with a DTP41UV and Monaco Profiler 4.5 without fail.

The results have been stellar with dye based and archival pigment inks.

Recently however I have purchased a Mimaki JV33 and have found the profiles are creating some very dark prints. The midtones are considerably darker and the shadows are plugged. The adjustments I need to apply to match my profiled monitor (samsung 275T, coloreyes display pro/dtp94) on a photoshop levels adjustment layer are in the range of 1.3-1.4. Since prints of files from outside sources are evaluated as being just as dark I have eliminated the monitor as being too light.

Is there anything about Eco-solvent inks and their inherent gloss levels that is affecting my profiles or equipment to create these darker prints?

I have used a DTP41 (non UV model) while my own device was out being re-calibrated and neither the non UV model or the re-calibration has done anything to alleviate this issue.

I do tend to set my ink limits on the high side but this has never been an issue before and I experience no over-inking issues with any media. I use the built in auto settings for ink jet printers and a mimaki CMYKcm Ecosolvent (ES3) inkset with Wasatch softrip V6.3 and let the rip handle the RGB-CMYK conversions by sending all jobs with an embedded RGB profile (AdobeRGB 1998)

The RIP and printer are new to me. My previous printers were all Epson 9*** models with colorburst RIPs and my profiling equipment and software worked beautifully with that combo.

The hues and saturation are accurate, the grayscale's neutral but the tonality/lightness is dark. I have tried generating profiles with either a relative colormetric intent, or perceptual. As well as setting the Wastatch rip to use either the RC or perceptual intent in all manner of different combinations without success.

Any suggestions are welcome. I always use the largest number of targets (2000+) and average a set of three 40 step linearization targets from within Profiler. The linearization curves appear very.... well linear. In that they are nearly a straight line. I have checked and found that the prints are stable after imaging with no significant lightening or darkening occurring as the prints dry. Letting my targets dry overnight or for 5 minutes has no discernible effect. The effects occur across a range of medias from a variety of manufacturers. Whether it's a matte finish, satin/luster or gloss. Changing resolution and/or number of passes produces identical results.

Thanks in advance,
Curtis Lea
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