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Re: Betterlight Camera Calibration
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Re: Betterlight Camera Calibration


  • Subject: Re: Betterlight Camera Calibration
  • From: Robin Myers <email@hidden>
  • Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 11:14:37 -0700

Dear Mr. Smith,

On Oct 1, 2008, at 10:19 , Stanley Smith wrote:

Interesting. However, I have a couple of comments that may temper enthusiasm for this product. First, conservators at the Getty would never allow direct measurement of a painting with a device that touches the surface of piece. Unless the spectral measurements could be taken at a distance (does such a device exist?), then this system will probably be relegated to the Giclee world, and not to major art museums.

There are non-contact devices that can be used for this process. Better Light has access to one, a PR-655 from Photo Research, and is engaged in getting this instrument connected for a non-contact solution. It is a more involved process making measurements with one of these devices, but Better Light is very aware of the problems making direct contact measurements and wants a solution for those fragile surfaces such as pastels, charcoals or wet surfaces, and for artworks which are too precious to risk contact measurement, such as museum collections. As soon as the PR-655 capture process can be put into as user-friendly a form as possible, it will be announced and made available.


Second, it seems that the proprietary nature of this HP workflow sees the end point as simply a print — only printed on an HP printer (in fact a connected HP printer is REQUIRED for operation-- as Edmund observes-- the biggest dongle on earth). We never store archival master files tagged with a camera profile-- they are too subject to changes -- camera firmware and general improvement in capture technology. I need to be able to open a master file in 10 years (even 100 years), and know what I am looking at. Chances are that HP printer that was used in this workflow would long be obsolete, so where does that leave you?

The result of the spectral processing is an ICC profile attached to the original raw file. This is not a device-link profile, it has no knowledge of the eventual output device, but it assumes an HP Z3200. When printed to an HP Z3200, the resulting print is a good match to the original. However, there is nothing that prevents this same output file from being printed on any other printer, or simply archived. The Z3200 serves as the dongle, as Mr. Ronald noted. Prints from a Z3200 may be much better than prints from another printer due to the increased chroma of the new HP inks. More testing is required to affirm this HP claim.


Thirdly, this is not really spectral capture. True, there is a lots of buzz in the painting conservation world regarding spectral capture, but it is seen as an analytical tool-- involving cooled chips, narrow band filters, and as many as 20 separate exposures. Such a gamut is huge-- well into the IR and UV. All very interesting stuff (see: Lumiere's capture of the Mona Lisa), but the value is in the quantitative data and analysis-- not simply the ability to make a better first print. This system uses Betterlight's (wonderful) tri-linear array-- this is RGB capture, not spectral capture.

Correct, this is not spectral capture. It is, however, spectral calculation of a scene-referred ICC profile, and perhaps the respondents to this list are not being as precise as they should with their descriptions.


Lastly, I am very interested in this tool as a way to create a better camera profile that can then be converted to a big RGB working space. But if my ability to do this somehow prohibits me from using the data if I have an Epson in my workflow, then I am much less interested.

It is a custom ICC profile for a specific artwork. After the profile is generated there is nothing preventing further transformations of the profile.


Regards,

Robin Myers

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