Re: Viewing lights, art and photography
Re: Viewing lights, art and photography
- Subject: Re: Viewing lights, art and photography
- From: edmund ronald <email@hidden>
- Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 22:37:06 +0200
Tom,
I have heard there is a very nice physics PhD qualifier question
which is "Why is the sky blue".
In the same vein I would suggest "My prints are too dark". A lot of
people in the photo workflows have this complaint.
I believe we should allow for realistic monitor settings and print
viewing conditions - ie adjust the software to how people have their
existing hardware set up, rather than expect them to meet the
software's specs for their hardware setup.
Edmund
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 2:32 PM, Tom Lianza <email@hidden> wrote:
> Hi Edmund,
>
> How about some suggestions for features or changes in workflow that you feel
> we need in the ICC workflow.
>
> Regards,
> Tom
>
>
> On 4/13/11 7:45 AM, "edmund ronald" <email@hidden> wrote:
>
>> The profiling industry has been mainly driven by the printing press
>> guys and their lightbooths up to now;
>>
>> I think we would have a short and easy win by getting display profiles
>> and prints to match prints better in everyday indoors lighting, rather
>> than going straight for the OBA problem - brightness adaptation has
>> more immediate effects.
>>
>> Edmund
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 11:01 AM, Ernst Dinkla <email@hidden> wrote:
>>> On viewing light corresponding to display light etc.
>>>
>>> With increasing numbers of photographers using color management solutions
>>> for theitr digital workflow in smaller shops etc there could be a shift
>>> towards 4000-3000K display conditions that are not really covered with M1
>>> viewing light booths, M1 spectrometer standards and profile creation
>>> software that doesn't really go below D50 but a Tungsten setting. I can
>>> understand that the packaging industry likes to refine M1 standards but is
>>> an in general declining graphic industry defining here what is most urgent?
>>>
>>> Solux lamps are now used more often for viewing proofs etc, the UV content
>>> of the 4700K version should correspond more than the usual fluorescent lamp
>>> solutions do where almost all UV is converted to visible light. On the other
>>> hand the Solux lamps are used more often by photographers that will display
>>> their prints to halogen light at lower color temperatures including Solux
>>> lamps . Solux changed the 4100 and lower K models so their ouput is low on
>>> UV now to reduce fading of art even more. Looks like the choices of viewing
>>> light have to be made carefully too when using Solux lamps, generations and
>>> color temperature models vary. UV-cut framing glass can not be ignored
>>> either.
>>>
>>> There is a better understanding of FBA effects in color management
>>> especially their higher color inconstancy to changing light. FBA papers on
>>> average are more prone to light and gas fading. Their dependence on UV light
>>> also exposes them to the most fade active kind of light. There is a tendency
>>> now to avoid FBA papers in photography and art for the reasons sketched. To
>>> define/improve UV content in viewing lights etc may be wasted time for that
>>> part of the market. Papers without FBA and UV-cut display illumination is
>>> the goal there.
>>>
>>> Display conditions for photography will change soon enough again. As I
>>> understand it the LCD, E-paper, Electro Wetting, OLED, displays will all
>>> have different native color temperatures and right now few have a CM
>>> integrated. There will be reflective, transmissive and hybrid displays. Some
>>> with backpanel lighting, other ones are self emitting.
>>>
>>> With standards for 6500K - 5000K +/-UV more or less defined it may be time
>>> to cover lower color temperatures with standards and features in hardware
>>> and software to cover the full range. Tungsten is just one choice in that
>>> range and not always available. I did read that some Canons have 4000K
>>> optimised printer profiles.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Met vriendelijke groeten, Ernst
>>>
>>>
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