Re: PDF, spot colors,RIPs, and ink jet printers
Re: PDF, spot colors,RIPs, and ink jet printers
- Subject: Re: PDF, spot colors,RIPs, and ink jet printers
- From: Steve Miller <email@hidden>
- Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 09:06:55 -0500
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- Thread-topic: PDF, spot colors,RIPs, and ink jet printers
In this workflow, the ink jet printer is the final destination. So the PDF
files would be printed to the ink jet printer through a APPE enabled color
managed RIP.
Therefore, no plates, no ink saving software, etc... Just PDF to RIP to
ink jet.
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On 24/08/2012 8:53, "Roger Breton" <email@hidden> wrote:
>It is true that transparency, gradients aka smooth shading and spot colors
>are a PDF workflow's Achile heel.
>Short of having a permanent solution, the best bet is to avoid freely
>mixing
>those elements on a page.
>Even if a smart preflight program was to catch these elements in a PDF, it
>would probably be on the 11th hour and there would be very little time
>left
>for making design changes.
>
>The business of handling PDFs with these elements is not a problem in
>itself
>IMO. The problem begins when reseparating images and graphics for the
>purpose of matching a press condition or to save ink. There, anything can
>happen and will happen.
>
>Everybody likes PDF and it is here to stay. In most instances, it works.
>Like 99.8% of the time, which isn't bad in itself. The rest of the time,
>issues have to be caught before making plates. At the quantity of pages
>that
>go through a typical workflow, no one can give 100% assurance that
>everything will go through smoothly, all the time. But everybody strives
>for
>100%.
>
>Best / Roger Breton
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: colorsync-users-bounces+graxx=email@hidden
>[mailto:colorsync-users-bounces+graxx=email@hidden] On
>Behalf Of Marc Sitkin
>Sent: August-24-12 9:34 AM
>To: email@hidden
>Subject: Re: PDF, spot colors,RIPs, and ink jet printers
>
>We've had terrible results printing any pdf via a RIP if transparency and
>spot color was involved. The explanation from out RIP vendor was that the
>problem was a result of the conversion process differing from Adobe's
>color
>engine. We've had to RIP files to tiff in photoshop first as a workaround.
>
>On 8/24/2012 9:27 AM, Steve Miller wrote:
>> I've been doing some research with PDF files and RIPs. We want to have
>> a PDF only workflow and one RIP vender is saying we should not use PDF
>> files. Instead, they recommend .eps, .tif or .jpg.
>> Here's a reply from one RIP vender.
>>
>> "The pdf print engine is implemented as a base feature in the" (enter
>> any vender name here) " RIP programs. It has advanced handling of pdf
>> and pdfx file formats. It was necessary for" (enter any vender name
>> here) "to add this feature due to Adobe's constant alteration of the
>> pdf encoding process and handling of transparencies, spot color
>> handling in gradients, and compression methods. There is a basic flaw
>> in the conversion of spot color in the pdf format to the rastered ink
>>dots
>of an inkjet printer.
>> This is a problem that all RIPs have.. It is a problem inherent in the
>> pdf format being rendered into the inkjet dot format. The repeat
>> printability of colors suffers in this format. While Adobe also alters
>> the EPS format, color consistency from print to print is stable."
>>
>> Is this a true statement?
>>
>
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