Re: scum dot
Re: scum dot
- Subject: Re: scum dot
- From: Peter Figen <email@hidden>
- Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2012 21:47:49 -0700
On Jul 13, 2012, at 9:11 PM, email@hidden wrote:
> One has to wonder at times <g>
Now that's just a ridiculous statement, and putting quotes around yourself grinning does not make any funnier.
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> Martin’s statement that the fault is PMP profiles and they all exhibit this is nonsense however. As I stated, I’ve built hundreds of profiles with that product, for a lot of customers using all kinds of printers, operating systems, drivers etc. His simplistic and incorrect statement implies pretty strongly this is something that is anything but a rare condition. .
The problem here is that you have no idea who and who is not suffering from this problem. First of all, you need to have a certain combination of events to take place, which you would have to confirm are happening, then you would have to have your clients print out test prints and look for the phenomenon. I didn't notice it at first. It was only looking at prints at an odd angle that I happened to notice. It was very very faint and was there, but unless you printed on page sizes considerably larger than your image size, you would never see it. Remember, this happens only outside image area, and it was only going from Leopard to Snow Leopard that created the problem. If you print with minimal borders like a lot of people do, you'd never ever see the problem. Hell, I even delivered prints to people who never saw it but it was there, but because they weren't using anything out of the image area, it never mattered. Again, this has nothing at all to do with rendering intents, only with a specific combination of profile, Ps and OS.
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>> Oh well. For the record, every person I know making prints on a Mac with the same setup and Gretag profiles has had the same issue.
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> And for the record, every customer I built profiles for didn’t. I’m not suggesting there isn’t some combo of bug that causes this. I’m suggesting that it is/was rare and to suggest GretagMacbeth/X-rite produced a product that caused this in mass, and just ignored it, that it was solely their doing doesn’t wash.
Hard to say where the problem lies, but the fact is, is that it didn't occur printing from CS5 and Leopard but showed up in Snow Leopard. It seems to point the finger in the direction of Apple, but it's never as easy as all that. There may be a whole host of other factors there that only the engineers know about. I know that I sent all the information I had including profiles to a support person at X-Rite, and they didn't even acknowledge my message. I will send all that I can to Steve Upton on Monday, if I have the time to gather it all.
Peter Figen
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