Re: Silly question department, Display Media White Point
Re: Silly question department, Display Media White Point
- Subject: Re: Silly question department, Display Media White Point
- From: Andrew Rodney <email@hidden>
- Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 10:18:31 -0700
> On Feb 26, 2015, at 9:26 AM, Roger Breton <email@hidden> wrote:
>
> Correct. It is still there but it's only collecting dust, Photoshop APIs convert colors within the ICC framework since CS5. Come on!
It's there because users still access that functionality (where's Dan Margulis, champ this area these days)? It would be expensive to remove, update documentation and it would break old workflows. The legacy CMYK option is a big hurt-me button but some users are masochist and there's no reason for Adobe to remove it. People have to accept responsibility for the wrong buttons they press.
> Start "small" and you end up "small". Start "big" and you end up "big".
> SWOPv2 is "small" compared to GRACoL.
Again I don't know what your point is (I doubt you're talking gamut). Are more shops using GRACoL than SWOPV2? Perhaps. Do you have real data to back up either? Doesn't matter. No matter what default is used, it's not prefect for everyone. The print industry has to take responsibility for this 'issue' rather than expect Adobe to alter the defaults and magically the world of color is now sailing smoothly.
I feel for you and the print industries issues dealing with cluless end users but really, that's your problem, not Adobe's. Because they are in a lose/lose situation unless every CMYK output used the same processes and that's not going happen. Rather than your industry continue to expect Adobe fix this "issue", the print industy should create a script or process that will alter the CMYK settings as they desire for their specific output. But nothing will be 100%. Dumb users will still use the wrong profile, not load the script to set the profile etc. Education is the key, that's your job or my job, and the end users job. Make them send you tagged RGB if they are simple too clueless to convert their data to CMYK.
OK, so they load the correct profile but they resample the image down too low and save as a JPEG with severe compression. Adobe's supposed to also fix that? People who accept files for output have to figure a way to get their customers to provide the data as they need, simple as that.
This problem you report isn't akin to someone's car spontaneously accelerating by itself, it is the driver slamming his foot on the gass pedal and the driver, not the manufacturer of the car is at falut here. IF Photoshop converted a file to SWOPV2 when the end user asked for GRACoL, you'd have a case against Adobe. That's not the situation.
Andrew Rodney
http://www.digitaldog.net/
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