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RE: Humans (and cameras and scanners) do not have a color gamut (?)
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RE: Humans (and cameras and scanners) do not have a color gamut (?)


  • Subject: RE: Humans (and cameras and scanners) do not have a color gamut (?)
  • From: Roger Breton via colorsync-users <email@hidden>
  • Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2020 17:18:46 -0500

Henry,

I agree, the visible spectrum has a (physical) "limit" but not the camera? No
two cameras are likely to have the same response to the spectrum locus. The
limit, in this case, is in the "object" being captured -- not in the camera
itself.

Do you see the difference?

/ Roger

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Sent: Tuesday, January 7, 2020 5:17 PM
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Subject: Re: Humans (and cameras and scanners) do not have a color gamut (?)

Thanks Roger.  What I don’t understand is the idea that the visible spectrum as
I understand it has some sort of gamut - it has defined ends.  That seems like
a gamut to me.

Henry Davis


> On Jan 7, 2020, at 4:55 PM, Roger Breton via colorsync-users
> <email@hidden> wrote:
>
> Henry,
>
> I'm not a digital camera designer but what don't you understand about the
> fact that a camera is a sophisticated "light detection system"? It's pretty
> much a color measuring instrument (others could correct me) but an i1pro does
> not have a "gamut" per se or a filter-based colorimeter, they  take light in
> and spit out numbers in response -- same with digital cameras, they take
> light in and spit out sets of RGB numbers. Surely there's a lot of math going
> on inside the CPU of a Nikon or a Canon or a SONY camera, like estimation of
> scene illuminant by which tonal responses are likely adjusted. There may very
> well be some kind of "model" of various 'natural scenes' because, just like
> during the creation of output profiles, it helps to have some kind of
> "assumptions" as to what ranges of colors or luminances are to be expected.
> But is that a"gamut" per se? A gamut is a physical construct, it comes from
> something measurable that have "limits".
>
> I hope that helps...
>
> / Roger

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