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Re: Convert to printer profile workflow question


  • Subject: Re: Convert to printer profile workflow question
  • From: Russell Proulx via colorsync-users <email@hidden>
  • Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2022 13:21:57 -0500

I don't want to dwell too long on this topic ... but someone asked me what exactly is broken with Big Sur / Adobe color management?

I've heard "it's broken and will never be fixed". But is there a short answer that explains how and what's not working as it should and why?

Thank you :-)

R

On 07/02/2022 11:30 p.m., Russell Proulx via colorsync-users wrote:
Thank you Neil and Andrew. I've passed the info on to the IT folks and hopefully it will help get things working while we wait for new Mac's to arrive. Their arrival has been delayed by supply chain issues and they will certainly arrive preinstalled with Monterey.

R

On 07/02/2022 2:15 p.m., Neil Barstow wrote:
I agree with Andrew, here are my own notes:

There is apparently a bug in Mac OSX Big Sur 11.6.2 in connection with ICC profile use / printing,

Some users have reported success after updating to Monterey, personally I'd be more likely to go back a version rather than jumping into a new OSX version soon after release.

Sadly this bug appears to still be present in 11.6.3, according to users here who have made that upgrade.

I hope this helps

neil barstow, colourmanagement net :: adobe forum volunteer
google me "neil barstow colourmanagement" for lots of free articles on colour management

On Sun, Feb 6, 2022 at 8:03 PM Andrew Rodney via colorsync-users <email@hidden> wrote:

    There is a bug that was introduced in OS X 11.2 that breaks the
    use of these ICC profiles in Photoshop. All you can do is
    downgrade up upgrade (12.X isn't affected). That is why it isn't
    playing nice, or playing at all. Lightroom Classic doesn't work
    either.
    Other than that, one could convert to the output color space and
    use another application that prints without color management like
    the Adobe Color Print Utility.
    No, using Printer Manages Color will not fix this issue. You can
    use that, without a full color management path (pick the profile,
    the RI etc) but it is either PMC or AMC and in Photoshop, under
    11.2 and apparently 11.3, broken.

    Andrew Rodney
    http://www.digitaldog.net/ <http://www.digitaldog.net/>

    > On Feb 6, 2022, at 12:54 PM, Russell Proulx via colorsync-users
    <email@hidden> wrote:
    >
    > Hello all.
    >
    > Sorry if this has already been asked and answered. I've not been
    here for quite a while.
    >
    > I'm trying to help someone working in a school environment where
    the macOS (Big Sur) on their aging computers, together with their
    Epson and Canon printers is facing problems when trying to print
    using the traditional way of letting LrC or PS manage the color,
    choosing the printer/paper profile in the print dialogue, and then
    turning OFF printer CM. For whatever reason this is not playing nice.
    >
    > I'm suggesting as a temporary workaround that they convert the
    image to the printer/paper profile in PS (using a copy of the
    original image) and then send it to the printer using "Printer
    manages color" while still turning OFF the printer color management.
    >
    > Is there any reason this workaround will not work? I just did a
    test today on two 5x7" color targets printed on the same 8.5x11"
    paper (top/bottom - sent through the printer twice) and they're
    close to being identical. I suspect that any difference is due to
    the combination of options I used (Perceptual, Relative
    Colorimetric, Absolute Colorimetric / Black Point Compensation,
    Dither).
    >
    > If I use the same options in the convert to profile as I would
    in PS's printer dialogue will/should the output result look the same?
    >
    > Thanks for any help :-)
    >
    > Russell
    >

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 >Convert to printer profile workflow question (From: Russell Proulx via colorsync-users <email@hidden>)
 >Re: Convert to printer profile workflow question (From: Andrew Rodney via colorsync-users <email@hidden>)
 >Re: Convert to printer profile workflow question (From: Neil Barstow via colorsync-users <email@hidden>)
 >Re: Convert to printer profile workflow question (From: Russell Proulx via colorsync-users <email@hidden>)

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