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Re: Some basic Audio device questions
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Re: Some basic Audio device questions


  • Subject: Re: Some basic Audio device questions
  • From: Shaun Wexler <email@hidden>
  • Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 21:03:44 -0700

On May 13, 2004, at 6:56 PM, Jeff Moore wrote:

Which devices are you talking about? Most of Edirol's devices are USB and use our class driver in one fashion or another. The UA-3 I have here seems to report the proper rates and does ok when I switch the sample rates, even on the fly. I don't see any crashes or anything like that.

I don't have an Edirol either. A couple of my users had problems with them in early 2003, but I haven't heard of any problems since Panther.

I'm not familiar with any of Sound Devices' stuff.

http://www.usbpre.com

It's probably the most solidly constructed 2-ch USB interface available; it's clean and has nice sounding pre's w/+48v. Most of us "pro" live-sound guys use them for dual-ch FFT analysis, when we aren't toting around the larger FW 8x8's on tour, etc.

AMS used to read the low range and ignore the high range value, which was apparent in the USBPre driver which (correctly) reported an output range of [5k, 55k]. To appear correct in AMS, it was changed to report several ranges: [32k, 32k], [44.1k, 44.1k], [48k, 48k]. All of this is from memory; honestly I haven't mucked with it for several months... since AMS became part of Panther, I eliminated my pref's tab that previously performed those duties in 10.1/10.2.

AMS has been around since at least Jaguar and I think it was in Puma and Cheetah, but I can't remember. It was rewritten in ObjC for Panther.

At any rate, there shouldn't be anything wrong with reporting a range of 5k-50K. I have a pair of USB speakers sitting here on my desk that report the exact same range, and they seem to show up OK in AMS and HALLab. A workaround shouldn't be necessary. I don't have a USBPre, so I can't look at why it might be throwing things for a loop, but it smells like a bug that should be filed in Radar, especially if this device uses the class driver.

In 2002, Sound Devices hired a 3rd-party developer to write an OS X port of their "PC-to-Mac OS 9" port of their original driver. I offered him some help when he was trying to get it working, and he sent me copies of their code, which he adapted from one of Apple's samples. The device doesn't work with Apple's default USB driver, because it has a 6-second hardware initialization during which it must be switched to high-power (500 ma) mode by the driver.

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Shaun Wexler
MacFOH
http://www.macfoh.com
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 >Some basic Audio device questions (From: Robert Grant <email@hidden>)
 >Re: Some basic Audio device questions (From: Brad Ford <email@hidden>)
 >Re: Some basic Audio device questions (From: Shaun Wexler <email@hidden>)
 >Re: Some basic Audio device questions (From: Jeff Moore <email@hidden>)
 >Re: Some basic Audio device questions (From: Shaun Wexler <email@hidden>)
 >Re: Some basic Audio device questions (From: Jeff Moore <email@hidden>)

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