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Re: AUParametricEq Q parameter?
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Re: AUParametricEq Q parameter?


  • Subject: Re: AUParametricEq Q parameter?
  • From: "James Chandler Jr" <email@hidden>
  • Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 23:43:20 -0500

Hi Felipe

Sorry to say, I've not messed with audiounits or the Apple audiounits. The only OSX Mac music programming I've had time to do was MIDI only.

IF the Apple 'Parametric EQ' is one of those basic little one-band EQ's, you can probably get satisfactory performance by wiring three of them in series. In analog, one wouldn't typically wire EQ sections in series because of noise build-up, but in digital this isn't a huge problem.

Wiring the sections in series, will give pretty low inter-band interaction (a good thing). Parallel filter structures are subject to inter-band phase cancellation, which is a big contributor to inter-band interaction.

Many of the little minimal single-band-parametric plugins also offer filter shape choices of Low Shelf (bass control) or High Shelf (treble control), in addition to the BandPass shape.

For a three-band tone control, IF the Apple Para EQ is simple single band, and IF it offers Low Shelf and HiShelf options, I would try three EQ's in series, one Lo Shelf with an FC about 100 Hz (some folks use 50 Hz, but IMO that's too low for general use), one BandPass with either a fixed FC or user-adjustable midband frequency knob, and one Hi Shelf with the FC somewhere around 5000 to 8000 Hz.

If the Apple plugin only offers Bandpass shape, you could still get something pretty passable.

As a point of reference, typical analog mixers with three-band non-sweepable tone controls, either have a mid-band FC around 400 Hz, or 2500 Hz.

A four-band tone control, with 100 Hz Lo Shelf, 400 Hz Bandpass, 2500 Hz Bandpass, and 8000 Hz Hi Shelf, would be pretty flexible, and implemented with only four simple boost/cut knobs. There are a lot of
'sound reinforcement' analog mixers with four-fixed-band EQ's. Sweepable EQ's are nice, but fixed-frequency tone controls are very quick, simple and intuitive. For starters, I'd try a Q of 0.707 for all bands.


Sorry if the reply is way off-mark. Maybe somebody else has better suggestions.

JCJR

----- Original Message ----- From: "Felipe Baytelman" <email@hidden>
To: <email@hidden>
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 3:08 PM
Subject: Re: AUParametricEq Q parameter?



 What Kevin said. A higher Q has a longer ring-time.

If this Q parameter is the typical EE definition, 'musically useful' parametric
equalization is in the range of 0.5 to 10. Once Q gets above about 5 or 10, the
ring time can get annoyingly long, and it sounds real artificial except for
special FX.
...
A multiband parametric (depending on its design) will not necessarily have the
frequency response you would guess just by looking at the knob settings. The
bands interact, and various equalizer designs have different behavior of
interband interactions.


JCJR

Thanks very much...

What I'm trying to do, is to have a 3-band (low-mid-high) equaliser, because the 31-band Apple eq eats the processor!!

So, in this case, can I use parametric EQ? Your definitions are way too difficult for a non music related guy :D
How can I build a 3-band equaliser based on Apple free effects?


Thanks!
--
Felipe Baytelman

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