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Re: Test report MBP built-in audio device


  • Subject: Re: Test report MBP built-in audio device
  • From: "Mikael Hakman" <email@hidden>
  • Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 01:14:40 +0200
  • Organization: Datakonsulten AB

Being scientist myself, and having mathematical, physical chemistry and computer sciences university degrees I would appreciate very much to hear your opinion. Let me first explain how my experiments are conducted so that we both understand expression "start-up time" in the same way.

I'm not physically, electronically or even logically switching the device on. The device is on for a long period of time and it is feed by a continuous signal. The signal consists of silence (zeros) up to a certain time. At that time the signal becomes pure sine wave with phase 0 (i.e. first sine sample is sin(0), next is sin(dt) etc). I continuously record output from the device and I know the exact delay between my output into device and device's output into my program. Therefore I know which of recorded samples that corresponds to the first sine wave sample. I start my analysis from that sample. When I say that I know the exact delay I mean the exact number of samples, which of course vary a little between the runs but is measured at the very beginning of each run, earlier (before silence and sine wave) in the test signal so to speak.

The reason I'm using such a test signal is that it is a crude simulation of what happens when a musical instrument is played. Because proper reproduction of signal during instrument's attack time (first few milliseconds after you hit a string, start blowing etc) has been shown to be the second most important factor after harmonic content to our perception of timbre, I decided to measure distortion in experiments that are close to this musical reality. Perhaps such experiments could explain why 2 audio devices having the same or very close specs, may sound so differently, one sounds right, the other doesn't.

I would appreciate very much your view on the subject.

Best Regards,
Dr. Mikael Hakman
Uppsala, Sweden

On Tuesday, August 26, 2008 11:52 PM, Brian Davies wrote:


I suggest that some combatants in this war rest their itchy typing fingers until they properly understand the subject matter.

Brian Davies
Mathematical Sciences Institute
Australian National University

email@hidden
www.maths.anu.edu.au/~briand

PS: all signal processing, including valve and other electronic equipment, has a start-up time which is irrelevant to distortion or otherwise of transitory audio material.

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