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Re: Test report MBP built-in audio device
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Re: Test report MBP built-in audio device


  • Subject: Re: Test report MBP built-in audio device
  • From: "James Chandler Jr" <email@hidden>
  • Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 09:54:04 -0400

----- Original Message ----- From: "Mikael Hakman" <email@hidden>

I'm not physically, electronically or even logically switching the device on. The device is on for a long period of time and it is feed by a continuous signal. The signal consists of silence (zeros) up to a certain time. At that time the signal becomes pure sine wave with phase 0 (i.e. first sine sample is sin(0), next is sin(dt) etc). I continuously record output from the device and I know the exact delay between my output into device and device's output into my program. Therefore I know which of recorded samples that corresponds to the first sine wave sample. I start my analysis from that sample. When I say that I know the exact delay I mean the exact number of samples, which of course vary a little between the runs but is measured at the very beginning of each run, earlier (before silence and sine wave) in the test signal so to speak.

The reason I'm using such a test signal is that it is a crude simulation of what happens when a musical instrument is played. Because proper reproduction of signal during instrument's attack time (first few milliseconds after you hit a string, start blowing etc) has been shown to be the second most important factor after harmonic content to our perception of timbre, I decided to measure distortion in experiments that are close to this musical reality. Perhaps such experiments could explain why 2 audio devices having the same or very close specs, may sound so differently, one sounds right, the other doesn't.

I know very little about it, but if you for instance duplicate this experiment, feeding your signal (silent head + sudden onset sine wave)-- If you process your test signal thru a simple IIR digital HiPass DC Blocker filter--


Visually examine the output, and the signal onset will not look like a clean sine wave for quite awhile after the signal onset, until the DC Blocker settles.

You can see the same thing with about any kind of filtering, including the low-pass anti-alias filtering on ADC inputs and DAC outputs (though those filters settle quicker than a DC Blocker). A sudden onset interacts strongly with the impulse response of the filter.

Dunno what an FFT of that first sudden-onset 'odd-looking' DC Blocker sine cycle would show. A short un-windowed FFT on that first wave cycle might make you think it indicates distortion. Dunno. Never tried it.

But such linear filters usually don't make harmonic distortion, only 'time distortion' contributed by the impulse response.

Maybe you are looking at some other artifact, and have a way of ignoring linear filter settling artifacts?

Audio DAC outputs and ADC inputs, will almost invariably have high-pass, DC Blocking characteristic. A short-term harmonic distortion test should have some way of ignoring the time-distortion of such filters' impulse responses.

That is one advantage of a windowed steady-state test-- In that case any linear impulse responses in the system have presumably settled, and so they will not confuse the distortion measurement?

jcjr

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