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Re: Speaker Audio when Headphone connected?
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Re: Speaker Audio when Headphone connected?


  • Subject: Re: Speaker Audio when Headphone connected?
  • From: Jeff Moore <email@hidden>
  • Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 12:41:06 -0800

One thing to keep in mind is that when hardware is getting bootstrapped is that it often will work a lot differently than it does once the OS is all up and running. This is one such case. During boot, the audio chip is brought up just enough to squeeze out the chime and nothing more. The point of booting is to get through the sequence as quickly as possible. Thus, having a more complex driver for the sound chip that can run all the jack detect circuitry and do the right switching would get in the way of booting quickly.

So, I would not be drawing any conclusions from the fact that the boot chime comes out the speaker, even when headphones are plugged in with regard to what you can and can't do with the hardware. They are completely different operating environments doing completely different jobs. Any conclusions you would draw would be completely erroneous.

On Feb 22, 2008, at 7:46 PM, Brian Willoughby wrote:

It must be a matter of language, because what you seem to be trying to communicate, and the words you're actually writing, are not entirely in accord.

Observation alone is enough to confirm that Apple's boot code is able to direct the single audio signal to the built-in speakers, even when headphones are plugged in. Apparently, users and developers want to do the same thing at other times after startup. If Apple has no plans to publicly support any access to this internal feature, then you're saying something quite different, and nobody could argue with that theoretical position.

"Mutually exclusive" means nothing more than that you cannot have both audio outputs operating at the same time. This is a well- understood fact that is written in stone (or etched in silicon, as it were). The method for choosing between these two mutually exclusive options is completely independent of the fact that only one can operate at a time. There is no semantic, logical, or hardware design correlation between the two statements.

Brian Willoughby
Sound Consulting


On Feb 22, 2008, at 19:15, Jeff Moore wrote:
The speakers and the headphones are mutually exclusive. Whether this is because of hard wiring or flipping bits in a register somewhere really doesn't matter. This is just another one of the facts about the hardware you have to deal with. There's no secret back door to make it work different.

If you don't want the sound coming out of the headphones, just unplug them.



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Jeff Moore
Core Audio
Apple


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