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Re: Convolution with large filters?
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Re: Convolution with large filters?


  • Subject: Re: Convolution with large filters?
  • From: Ross Bencina <email@hidden>
  • Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 22:31:56 +1100



On 12/02/2012 7:54 AM, Nikolai Collinsky wrote:
> Partitioned convolution is your friend here for longer impulse responses. You might have to write some convolution code yourself going via FFT calls.
>
> For the minimal delay version of this, see:
> William G. Gardner. Efficient convolution without input-output delay. Journal of the Audio Engineering Society, 43(3):127–136,
> 1995.

And for the uniform partitioning case, this is a reasonable introduction:

Anders Torger, Angelo Farina. REAL-TIME PARTITIONED CONVOLUTION FOR AMBIOPHONICS SURROUND SOUND
http://www.acoustics.net/objects/pdf/article_farina04.pdf
http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/freeabs_all.jsp?arnumber=969576


Historically, Gardener's non-uniform partitioning algorithm was covered by notorious patent from Lake DSP (now Dolby). Perhaps this has expired, or is very close to expiring in the USA although I think there is a newer European patent. Googling "Lake DSP convolution patent" brings up some hits.

I believe Microsoft has a newer patent on certain "optimal" partitioning schemes.


For medium size convolutions there is also this O(n^log2(3)) scheme (not sure what the official name for it is):

http://www.musicdsp.org/showone.php?id=65
http://www.musicdsp.org/showone.php?id=66


The biggest problem with FFT based block-wise convolution is that it's difficult to spread the CPU load evenly when you have a small audio callback buffer size. There was a paper discussing some approaches at last year's DAFx conference.

HTH

Ross.
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