Re: backdoors
Re: backdoors
- Subject: Re: backdoors
- From: Alexander von Below <email@hidden>
- Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 01:15:25 +0100
Thank you, Jason.
Am 06.01.2011 um 01:08 schrieb Jason Coco:
>
> On Jan 5, 2011, at 18:33 , email@hidden wrote:
>
>> finally an answer, i don't need to know ObjC for my project. so C it is
>> (as i said... much earlier, i know Java and a little of C++ and ASKED for
>> a reference to read and study, but got NO reply).
>>
>> cross posting at a web forum? was that some form of joke? i was just
>> suggesting that this mailing list will be better as a web forum (Vanilla
>> works nice).
>
> Vincent/Esteban/Stephan/Whatever,
>
> I think the problem is that your posts generally do not make a lot of sense
> and seem to be more about your political views/opinions than anything
> to do with a technical development mailing list for Darwin.
>
> For instance, most people on this list honestly couldn't care less if you
> relocate to Mountain View or if you relocate to Milan or what you want
> to call yourself today, since it all has very little (read:nothing) to do with
> Darwin development.
>
> As for your project, it's not actually very clear what you're doing or what
> you really need help with. We did answer the couple of actual Darwin-related
> development questions you asked, but mostly ignored the other inane rantings.
>
> Also, your questions themselves often seem muddled and quite trollish. If they're
> genuine development-related questions, I apologize for most of us, but given
> your history on this list posting political statements and attempting to ignite
> discussion here regarding such statements, it's hard to treat a question like
> 'What backdoors have governments put into Darwin?' as a real question and
> not an attempt to start another political debate. Finally, you seem to be missing
> a key understanding of the difference between Mac OS X and Darwin when
> you ask some of your questions. For example, what Mail and the Keychain Access
> applications may or may not do are not really relevant since neither are included
> with Darwin. Also, since you have full access to the source, you can reasonably
> set the trust properties of your Cert Authorities in your home-spun OS/Window Manager
> thing. You can even do this in Mac OS X if you feel the urge to do so, it just
> comes pre-loaded with appropriate top-level trust certs so that you can do
> such basic things as browse the web.
>
> Anyway, most people here are quite knowledgeable and helpful for real Darwin-related
> engineering questions. If you just do a quick perusal of this list over the past
> year or so, however, you'll see that you rarely actually ask such questions and
> you're often asked by people who try to be helpful at first to either remain
> on-topic or to stop posting. I suggest you take that advice, this is not a political
> debate forum nor is this a forum for creating the next best user experience, it's
> simply a Darwin engineering forum. If you want to discuss those other topics,
> take your own advice and find a nice web forum that does so.
>
>>
>>> Le 5 janv. 2011 à 23:48, Stephen J. Butler a écrit :
>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 4:15 PM, Axel Luttgens <email@hidden>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Either some posts didn't arrive in my mailbox, or some of them were
>>>>> off-list. Anyway, I'm lost...
>>>>> What are we speaking about? ;-)
>>>>
>>>> He wants us to tell him where all the backdoors are in the kernel,
>>>> because he doesn't know ObjC. Except we told him there aren't any
>>>> known backdoors, the kernel isn't ObjC, and if he wanted a security
>>>> audit he'd have to do it himself.
>>>>
>>>> The rest of these posts have been rather unintelligible attempts at
>>>> cross posting an OT discussion to a web forum. I wish he'd just
>>>> stop...
>>>
>>> Thanks Stephen.
>>> I'm now a bit reassured. :-)
>>> Axel
>
> Yeah, don't worry, Axel, you haven't really missed anything of value.
>
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