Re: backdoors
Re: backdoors
- Subject: Re: backdoors
- From: email@hidden
- Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 19:44:37 -0500 (EST)
it's inefficient when the first question is not answered (references for
ObjC cod'ing... which apparently are not needed).
i could care less if someone thinks i'm just troll'ing.
and i identify more with elves.
too much ego, too much machine; too few hacking, too few helping... (not
directed at anyone in particular).
my response to samsårapuras is just a flanger noise reduction for my mind...
and the enSUI project has being just digitalized, but with such "help" i
may just patent it.
>>
>> On Jan 5, 2011, at 18:33 , email@hidden wrote:
>>
>>> finally an answer, i don't need to know ObjC for my project. so C it is
>>> (as i said... much earlier, i know Java and a little of C++ and ASKED
>>> for
>>> a reference to read and study, but got NO reply).
>>>
>>> cross posting at a web forum? was that some form of joke? i was just
>>> suggesting that this mailing list will be better as a web forum
>>> (Vanilla
>>> works nice).
>>
>> Vincent/Esteban/Stephan/Whatever,
>>
>> I think the problem is that your posts generally do not make a lot of
>> sense
>> and seem to be more about your political views/opinions than anything
>> to do with a technical development mailing list for Darwin.
>>
>> For instance, most people on this list honestly couldn't care less if
>> you
>> relocate to Mountain View or if you relocate to Milan or what you want
>> to call yourself today, since it all has very little (read:nothing) to
>> do with
>> Darwin development.
>>
>> As for your project, it's not actually very clear what you're doing or
>> what
>> you really need help with. We did answer the couple of actual
>> Darwin-related
>> development questions you asked, but mostly ignored the other inane
>> rantings.
>>
>> Also, your questions themselves often seem muddled and quite trollish.
>> If they're
>> genuine development-related questions, I apologize for most of us, but
>> given
>> your history on this list posting political statements and attempting to
>> ignite
>> discussion here regarding such statements, it's hard to treat a question
>> like
>> 'What backdoors have governments put into Darwin?' as a real question
>> and
>> not an attempt to start another political debate. Finally, you seem to
>> be missing
>> a key understanding of the difference between Mac OS X and Darwin when
>> you ask some of your questions. For example, what Mail and the Keychain
>> Access
>> applications may or may not do are not really relevant since neither are
>> included
>> with Darwin. Also, since you have full access to the source, you can
>> reasonably
>> set the trust properties of your Cert Authorities in your home-spun
>> OS/Window Manager
>> thing. You can even do this in Mac OS X if you feel the urge to do so,
>> it just
>> comes pre-loaded with appropriate top-level trust certs so that you can
>> do
>> such basic things as browse the web.
>>
>> Anyway, most people here are quite knowledgeable and helpful for real
>> Darwin-related
>> engineering questions. If you just do a quick perusal of this list over
>> the past
>> year or so, however, you'll see that you rarely actually ask such
>> questions and
>> you're often asked by people who try to be helpful at first to either
>> remain
>> on-topic or to stop posting. I suggest you take that advice, this is not
>> a political
>> debate forum nor is this a forum for creating the next best user
>> experience, it's
>> simply a Darwin engineering forum. If you want to discuss those other
>> topics,
>> take your own advice and find a nice web forum that does so.
>>
>>>
>>>> Le 5 janv. 2011 à 23:48, Stephen J. Butler a écrit :
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 4:15 PM, Axel Luttgens <email@hidden>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Either some posts didn't arrive in my mailbox, or some of them were
>>>>>> off-list. Anyway, I'm lost...
>>>>>> What are we speaking about? ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> He wants us to tell him where all the backdoors are in the kernel,
>>>>> because he doesn't know ObjC. Except we told him there aren't any
>>>>> known backdoors, the kernel isn't ObjC, and if he wanted a security
>>>>> audit he'd have to do it himself.
>>>>>
>>>>> The rest of these posts have been rather unintelligible attempts at
>>>>> cross posting an OT discussion to a web forum. I wish he'd just
>>>>> stop...
>>>>
>>>> Thanks Stephen.
>>>> I'm now a bit reassured. :-)
>>>> Axel
>>
>> Yeah, don't worry, Axel, you haven't really missed anything of value.
>>
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