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Re: Leopard Sources?
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Re: Leopard Sources?


  • Subject: Re: Leopard Sources?
  • From: Andreas Fink <email@hidden>
  • Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 20:07:15 +0200


On 27.10.2007, at 16:43, Alexander von Below wrote:


Am 27.10.2007 um 16:35 schrieb Andreas Fink:

Anyone have an idea when Leopard kernel sources will be available?

No, but usually they arrive shortly after the release.

10.4.9 had been released 13 days after releasing some different binary named 10.4.9
10.4.10 has been released 20. June 2007. This is over 4 months by now and no kernel sources.


so what is "usually"?

My development is 99% blocked because of this. Sources are a MUST in this case.

My suggestion would be to file a DTS incident in this case.

Tried that in the past with no luck. Its not a technical issue. its a political.
Some Apple politicians don't understand what Open Source means or don't want to understand.
How the hell should the open source community contribute to source if its not published and if it is, its not the same as in shipped products?


Of course all this wouldn't be an issue if Apple would have finally created the corresponding API (isnt it Vincent?) which we have been asking for since 2005 over and over again so we wouldn't have to be kernel dependent. I'm getting really upset about this. I have to tell my customers, forget Leopard where as the whole world made them hot on having it, and to kick out their shiny XServes and put some lousy Sun's into their racks just because Apple can't adopt SCTP, and gives open source SCTP contributors (who by the way contribute the same source to the FreeBSD kernel too and some are even authors of the RFC's so not just some kiddies) no choice than to wait until someone at Apple finds the time to create the API promised since 2005 or some decent fellow has time to release some sources which might look close enough like the ones used to produce the kernels on the shipping DVD's.

As a side note SCTP protocols with its multi homing feature would be REALLY good to have on the iPhone. So you can keep connections up while being on GPRS/EDGE or on WLAN. One of the great features of SCTP compared to TCP and UDP which both simply would kill the session. So we're not trying to be nasty, wer'e trying to make Apple's product much much better.

I haven't dared to ask the source of the iPhone kernel. The first Leopard which was released free. Of course that one will be even more closed source. Great new Apple! *1984 - †2007 for me.


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