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Re: [Fed-Talk] Re: Fed-talk Digest, Vol 1, Issue 33
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Re: [Fed-Talk] Re: Fed-talk Digest, Vol 1, Issue 33


  • Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] Re: Fed-talk Digest, Vol 1, Issue 33
  • From: Brian Raymond <email@hidden>
  • Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2004 21:49:14 -0500

I know that the Garter group accepts "support" from corporations to put resources on the topics they are interested in. I won't name the company but one of the places I used to work provided Gartner about $500k per year for "neutral support".



- Brian



Michael Pike wrote:
I try to give him the benefit of the doubt... He is bald as a baby's butt -
and it's getting cold in Redmond, so he may be suffering from brain freeze.

There is no accountability.  If it's so much safer.... Ugh nevermind.  If I
get worked up this time of night I won't be able to sleep :)

Isn't the Gartner group the group that claims to be "neutral" for IT
information?  Kind of hard to be neutral if you have someone like Balmer as
a keynote speaker.


Mike



On 11/13/04 6:58 PM, "Mark Moorcroft" <email@hidden> wrote:


Funny, Balmer was just recently a keynote speaker at the Gartner conference.
He claimed that Windoze was a safer bet because holes are patched in a much
more timely manner because there is accountability. That man will say just
about anything and I actually think HE believes that crap he spews. I think
he actually had the guts to claim that holes get patched in days not weeks
or months.


From: "Pike, Michael" <email@hidden>
Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] ammo: mi2g OS X is world's safest and most
secure

I totally disagree - I often hear this response from Microsoft advocates any
time a security hole arises in Windows (whoa, there is another one!  And
another! :)

*nix kernels (OS X, FreeBSD, etc) are open source, and reviewed by millions
of developers.  Microsoft's kernel is not.

If you have a corn field that is 600 acres, and you have to find every
ladybug in that field with 3 spots (bugs), and you have 1 million people
looking at it, you will find a significantly larger number of bugs than
someone who has a team of 100 people looking for them.

I believe the low number of "hacks" related to *nix OS's is due to the fact
that problems are found and fixed BEFORE they become a problem, as opposed
to the Microsoft platform which are patched AFTER someone gets hit.

Even if the number of OS X and Microsoft based installations were equal (I
believe it's possible, I'm working for that), you would still see a
significantly smaller number of "hacks" for the OS X platform for the mere
fact that problems are discovered and fixed before they were ever realized
to be a problem.

Mike


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