Fwd: [Fed-Talk] Email client support for WebMail on an Exchange server
Fwd: [Fed-Talk] Email client support for WebMail on an Exchange server
- Subject: Fwd: [Fed-Talk] Email client support for WebMail on an Exchange server
- From: Michael Kluskens <email@hidden>
- Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 09:16:27 -0500
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From: Shawn Geddis
Date: July 29, 2005 6:25:53 PM EDT
Cc: Fed Talk <email@hidden>
Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] Email client support for WebMail on an
Exchange server
On Jul 29, 2005, at 12:05 PM, Lawlin, David C CIV (NAVAIR 4.1.3)
wrote:
Is it possible to use Apple Mail or Entourage in place of a
Webclient (Safari or IE) to check Webmail hosted by an Exchange
server.
Specifically, https://webmail.nmci.navy.mil where the user would
retrieve their email as
user: nadsusea/[username]
pw: xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
The site is PKI enabled and I have been successful in using my
CAC card with 10.4 to check my email with Safari.
Dave
David,
First, good to hear you have successfully been using 10.4, Safari
and your CAC to access https://webmail.nmci.navy.mil for webmail.
Both Apple Mail and MS Entourage access an Exchange Server 2003 or
higher using IMAP and WebDAV, since they are both accessing it via
OWA - Outlook Web Access. This is not the same as Webmail and as
Lee noted, would require IMAP/WebDAV enabled (which they are by
default) on the Exchange 2003 Server. By the way, as has been
mentioned on this list before, the older Exchange Server 5.5
required MAPI and hence neither Apple Mail nor Entourage can access
accounts on the older servers.
Lee mentions...
MCI limits access to the NMCI Exchange Server to NMCI hard seats
(running Outlook), NMCI Terminal Services seats (running Outlook
on remote Windows Application Servers that NMCI controls), to
Webmail (from any host with the correct PKI) and to the NMCI
Blackberries.
Sounds like you could also use the MS Remote Desktop Connector for
Mac OS X to attach to the Terminal Services as well.
MS Remote Desktop Connector
<http://www.microsoft.com/mac/otherproducts/otherproducts.aspx?
pid=remotedesktopclient>
Download Link
<http://www.microsoft.com/mac/downloads.aspx?pid=download&location=/
mac/download/misc/
rdc_update_103.xml&secid=80&ssid=10&flgnosysreq=True>
Lee, response on your other comments
I USED to access NMCI Webmail with my browser (before the 10.4
upgrade broke the ActivCard software and my laptop's ability talk
to our CAC card readers).
There is no need to install ActivCard Gold on Mac OS X. Smart Card
Services are built into Mac OS X 10.4 and fully integrated into the
OS-based PKI. This means that OS X Login, Apple Mail, Safari,
Internet Connect, MS Entourage, ... all fully access the Smart
Cards as part of the built-in services. All you needs is a
supported reader (30+) and if it is not a CCID compliant or is not
one of those supported by the pre-installed drivers then you just
need to install the corresponding driver. The ActivCard USBv2
Reader (SCM SCR331 + Firmware mods) is indeed supported on Mac OS X
10.4 either by way of installing the driver (ActCCID.bundle) or
flashing the reader to be its original CCID Compliant firmware
(http://www.scmmicrosystems.com & ftp://ftp.scmmicrosystems.com/).
For now I am running VirtualPC on my Mac and either Webmail or
Outlook via terminal services. Not very efficient by 1) the CAC
card still works under Windows and 2) the Macintosh version of
terminal services under NMCI does not work reliably.
You're running everything under VPC ?
Try Webmail via Safari/CAC .... at least...
What are the issues you are facing with RDC on OS X ? Have you
submitted these issues to MS ?
-Shawn
___________________________________________
Shawn Geddis
Security Consulting Engineer
Apple Computer - US Federal Government
On Jul 29, 2005, at 5:30 PM, Lee Zimmerman wrote:
Dave,
Unfortunately, what you want doesn't appear to be possible...or at
least no one here at the Navy's "premier" C4ISR R&D facility has
been able to figure it out. ;-) NMCI limits access to the NMCI
Exchange Server to NMCI hard seats (running Outlook), NMCI
Terminal Services seats (running Outlook on remote Windows
Application Servers that NMCI controls), to Webmail (from any host
with the correct PKI) and to the NMCI Blackberries. At least here,
the NMCI network is physically separate from our "R&D" network, so
there is a firewall in place that can easily block the ports
Entourage would need to connect to the Exchange server. Mail.app
wouldn't work because, as far as I know, the NMCI Exchange Servers
are not configured to support PoP or IMAP protocols. There's also
the issue of having to figure out the NMCI naming convention to
get connected to the right Exchange Server in the first place
(somehow I don't think the Help Desk is going to support that).
I USED to access NMCI Webmail with my browser (before the 10.4
upgrade broke the ActivCard software and my laptop's ability talk
to our CAC card readers). For now I am running VirtualPC on my Mac
and either Webmail or Outlook via terminal services. Not very
efficient by 1) the CAC card still works under Windows and 2) the
Macintosh version of terminal services under NMCI does not work
reliably.
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