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Re: [Fed-Talk] Fwd: Advice for customers to provide Entourage feedback to Microsoft
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Re: [Fed-Talk] Fwd: Advice for customers to provide Entourage feedback to Microsoft


  • Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] Fwd: Advice for customers to provide Entourage feedback to Microsoft
  • From: Michael Pike <email@hidden>
  • Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 13:08:25 -0600

Wow.... looks like they care about the app!

I use Apple Mail myself, I just flat out don't like exchange or entourage... but it's good to see MS cares about it.

On Sep 29, 2006, at 7:47 AM, Dave Hale wrote:

Read and heed.

Begin forwarded message:

From: Andy Ruff <email@hidden>
Date: September 28, 2006 12:52:27 PM CDT
To: email@hidden
Subject: Re: Entourage Opinions
Reply-To: Mac OS X enterprise deployment project <email@hidden>


Hey folks,

I'm the Lead Program Manager for Entourage in Microsoft's Macintosh Business
Unit (MacBU). I've been a member of this list for some time and presented
the June MacEnterprise Webcast on Exchange and Entourage. There are quite a
few members from across the product teams in the MacBU on this list--we are
listening in, despite the lack of responses.


I am not going to make excuses. I know that previous versions of Entourage
have been unreliable and difficult. Heck, prior to Entourage 2004 SP2,
downloading the public folder hierarchy inside Microsoft took a whopping
nine hours (compared to the many orgs I've seen, we don't have that many
public folders)! Don't think that I sat in my office within Microsoft back
in 2004 satisfied that my PowerBook was unable to share my calendar with
other members of the team.


We fixed these problems and we'll continue to fix issues with our current
design while also aiming to provide additional Exchange functionality.
Exchange support in Entourage is an iterative process of improvement. We
are not aiming to be Outlook, but we are aiming to solve your problems. In
the three years I've been with the team, we've shipped four major versions
(as determined by the engineering work involved, not the app's version
number). Each of these has added Exchange functionality. Each of these has
brought about greater reliability. We're not a big team, but we are hard
working.


It's also important to note that Entourage first shipped in 2001 and was not
an Exchange client. Exchange users are important, but they certainly are
not our only users. We have to balance our decisions and resources such
that we deliver value for both sets of users. It's my belief we can do this
in a win-win manner, such as the 11.2.5 release earlier this year that
provided Sync Services and Spotlight support--features that benefit all
users. Nonetheless, while I'd love to solve each and every problem for each
and every user, we simply cannot do so.


Here is a bit of insight--we make decisions on what we are going to do by
gathering your feedback. Generally, we make better decisions if you provide
a priortized list of your needs and an idea of what trade-offs you'd make
(e.g. if you could have A and B but not C, would you rather just have C).
While not every user's needs are equal, we have a farily sophisticated
process for aggregating this feedback and determining how we can deliver the
most benefit to the largest number of users. Last year's Service Pack 2 is
a solid example of this: among other things, we added full delegation
support, permissions, sharing, stronger calendaring, better GAL support,
while fixing a large number of poor design decisions from the past. All of
these were at the top of nearly every bit of prioritized feedback we
received. Your lists aren't empty now, but, for many of you, what once was
request #8 is now #2.


So, what's the best way to provide feedback? I don't think this list is the
place to do so--Mac Enterprise is a great community for practicing Mac
enterprise experts. MacBUers are reading here to get an idea of your
issues, but generally not responding as to avoid hijacking the value of this
community. Instead, here are some suggestions (the appropriateness of each
varies depeneding on the feedback):


1. Account Reps, if you have them
2. Product support (for problems with existing behavior)
3. Entourage newsgroups on microsoft.com
4. Entourage Talk mailing list
5. We're always at WWDC and MacWorld SF

I also read every blog post with the word "Entourage" in it via Technorati
(yes, I read a lot about the TV show). There are a lot of ways to share
feedback--you may not always get a response, but that hardly means we didn't
hear nor consider it. We want to make Entourage a great product. But we're
not the judge of that, you are. We can only get there by knowing what you
want.


-Andy

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Andy Ruff (email@hidden)
Lead Program Manager, Entourage
Macintosh Business Unit, Microsoft


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