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Re: [Fed-Talk] Two Iphone Email Questions
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Re: [Fed-Talk] Two Iphone Email Questions


  • Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] Two Iphone Email Questions
  • From: Dave Schroeder <email@hidden>
  • Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 16:03:41 -0500

On Sep 11, 2009, at 3:40 PM, Pike, Michael (IHS/NPA) wrote:

I beg to differ... the iPhone Configuration Utility is how it was accomplished, and that is supported by Apple...

...via an unsupported use of the mobile provisioning process, proven by the fact it's been disabled in 3.1.


ATT says I have unlimited data on my iPhone... i'm not a bandwidth pig, like I said we did it for testing.

AT&T says you have unlimited data, because they expect it NOT to be able to be used for tethering. That's why tethering plans cost on the order of $40/mo more.


Trust me, there is NO WAY under 3.0 or 3.01 ATT can tell if you are surfing through the iPhone or a tether. I could get into specifics as to why, but I won't... but on that note, 3.1 changed that.

I actually don't care whether AT&T could tell whether you are surfing tethered, and frankly, it's doesn't matter. For the record, I agree that AT&T would almost certainly never find out.


However, it is still against the AT&T terms of service, because the terms don't allow you to do anything that is technically able to be accomplished with the phone.

Additionally, deep packet inspection or even a cursory examination of traffic would easily show that you are not using iPhone applications, and there is a tethering flag for data use. Even still, I agree that AT&T would never notice unless you are abusive (>5GB month).

You can even take an ATT wireless network card, put your iPhone sim card in it and surf through a mobile connection card... ATT makes no changes from the iPhone to their regular remote APN.

Understand completely...but again, this is a shortcoming, and it's because AT&T makes assumptions about where and how the SIM will be used. You can also pop out your iPhone SIM, put it in another AT&T phone that supports MMS, enable MMS on your account, put it back in an iPhone running iPhone OS 3.x or newer, and voila, MMS. But that is also not supported by AT&T, and it's because AT&T wasn't ready for the huge amount of MMS traffic that iPhone users will generate (again, disproportionate to other phone users).


I agree all of these things are technically possible, and have tested many of the various modes of iPhone tethering; but the point still stands that it is unsupported by Apple and AT&T and violates AT&T's terms of service.

I have four iphones like I said.. this one will stay 3.01 forever unless ATT offers something comparable.

They likely will when the network is capable, and the tethering plan will probably cost an additional $40/mo. Whether this is unreasonable or not, the money goes, overall, to subsidize network buildouts to support the data increases that WILL occur when people use data services via their laptops.


Again, I completely understand with the appeal of tethering...but since this is a mailing list catering to federal government users, I thought it would be prudent to point out the other issues involved here.

- Dave
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 >Re: [Fed-Talk] Two Iphone Email Questions (From: Paul Kwan <email@hidden>)
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 >RE: [Fed-Talk] Two Iphone Email Questions (From: "Pike, Michael (IHS/NPA)" <email@hidden>)

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