Re: [Fed-Talk] Outlook vs. Mail, iCal, and Address Book
Re: [Fed-Talk] Outlook vs. Mail, iCal, and Address Book
- Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] Outlook vs. Mail, iCal, and Address Book
- From: email@hidden
- Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 11:06:53 -0400
> Mail, iCal and Address Book are maddeningly
> inconsistent even though they're theoretically supposed to work together.
> I flat out never liked Mail, even though I use it all the time. I
just
> don't think the iTunes interaction/organizational approach works very
well
> for e-mail.
>
> <snip!>
>
> I will say that Apple slam dunked all three on the iPad. Those
interfaces
> are amazing.
Of course, the rumor is that the version
of Mail and iCal that we see with the next major iteration of the Mac OS
will sport a similar interface to that of the iPad.
I guess only time will tell!
Joe
From:
"Blackmon Jerry
(Contractor)" <email@hidden>
To:
"Fed Talk"
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Date:
10/18/2010 10:55
Subject:
Re: [Fed-Talk]
Outlook vs. Mail, iCal, and Address Book
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I can see how that would be a problem, but I look
at it from a training
perspective. It is MUCH easier to teach someone how to use one program
with one *gasp* well designed interface than try to have them learn three
very different interfaces. Mail, iCal and Address Book are maddeningly
inconsistent even though they're theoretically supposed to work together.
I flat out never liked Mail, even though I use it all the time. I
just
don't think the iTunes interaction/organizational approach works very well
for e-mail.
Though it pains me to give them any credit, Microsoft has got this one
right. Outlook would have saved me months of frustration when I was
working at a non-profit with offices spread across the country trying to
teach the employees how to transition to web-based collaborative services
from doing everything in Entourage with its obligatory 400GB unstable
database files. Can't tell you how much political capital I burned
when I
forced everyone to switch from POP to IMAP for their own benefit. They
couldn't fathom why I was doing that until they got the iPhone religion.
Lots of lessons were learned from that war haha.
I will say that Apple slam dunked all three on the iPad. Those interfaces
are amazing.
---
Jerry Blackmon <email@hidden>
Senior Systems Administrator
Office of Information Technology Operations
Bureau of Engraving and Printing
Department of Treasury
"The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to
change. The realist adjusts the sails." -- William Arthur Ward
On 10/18/10 10:38 AM, "Joel Esler" <email@hidden>
wrote:
>Now, see thwarts interesting Jerry, I guess it's all in what you like.
I
>like the fact that Mac has their apps segregated into their single
tasks.
>I've always hated how outlook tried to cram everything into one program.
>
>I don't want my mail program to be my calendar program. If I just want
to
>look at the calendar, I was to launch iCal without the bloat of trying
to
>get my current emails down from the server wt the same time.
>
>--
>Sent from my iPad
>
>On Oct 18, 2010, at 10:13 AM, "Blackmon Jerry (Contractor)"
><email@hidden> wrote:
>
>> You don't have the option of purchasing the apps individually,
AFAIK.
>>You
>> buy Office, you get it all.
>>
>> In my experience, Mail is rather limited as an e-mail client.
And I
>>like
>> that most of the communication/collaboration tools you need in
a
>>corporate
>> environment are integrated into one interface in the new Outlook.
Not
>>to
>> mention it's one less issue you'll have with PC users since, I'm
told,
>>the
>> differences between Outlook Win and Outlook Mac are slight. Easier
to
>> switch someone over (or bring a Windows user into a Mac environment)
>> without having to teach them how to use Entourage or the
>>Mail/iCal/Address
>> Book combo.
>>
>> Oddly enough, Microsoft handed us a trojan horse. With a
full Outlook
>> client, what reason is there to support a Windows machine when
a Mac can
>> do it all and then some?
>>
>> ---
>> Jerry Blackmon <email@hidden>
>> Senior Systems Administrator
>>
>> Office of Information Technology Operations
>> Bureau of Engraving and Printing
>> Department of Treasury
>>
>> "The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects
it to
>> change. The realist adjusts the sails." -- William
Arthur Ward
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10/18/10 10:03 AM, "Yankopolus, Andreas" <email@hidden>
wrote:
>>
>>> I've only used Outlook briefly on Windows machines and am
wondering
>>>what
>>> it provides beyond the combination of Mail, iCal, and Address
book. Is
>>> there a compelling reason to pay the extra money to get it
along with
>>> Excel, PowerPoint, and Word? I know that Outlook's use of
MAPI let's it
>>> circumvent the attachment limitation of the EWS interface
used by
>>> Mail.app.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Andreas
>>>
>>> Andreas Yankopolus, Ph.D.
>>> Senior Systems Engineer
>>> Scientific Research Corporation
>>> 770-989-9474
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