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Re: [Fed-Talk] Outlook vs. Mail, iCal, and Address Book
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Re: [Fed-Talk] Outlook vs. Mail, iCal, and Address Book


  • Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] Outlook vs. Mail, iCal, and Address Book
  • From: Joel Esler <email@hidden>
  • Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 11:22:00 -0400

Well, their web apps have now (MobileMe), so I can't imagine that the osx stuff isn't far behind. We'll find out tomorrow. 

Also, the rumor is that iChat is being recoded to work with face time protocols. Win. 

--
Sent from my iPad

On Oct 18, 2010, at 11:06 AM, email@hidden wrote:

> Mail, iCal and Address Book are maddeningly
> inconsistent even though they're theoretically supposed to work together.
> I flat out never liked Mail, even though I use it all the time.  I just
> don't think the iTunes interaction/organizational approach works very well
> for e-mail.

>
>  <snip!>
>
> I will say that Apple slam dunked all three on the iPad.  Those interfaces
> are amazing.


Of course, the rumor is that the version of Mail and iCal that we see with the next major iteration of the Mac OS will sport a similar interface to that of the iPad.

I guess only time will tell!

Joe





From:        "Blackmon Jerry (Contractor)" <email@hidden>
To:        "Fed Talk" <email@hidden>
Date:        10/18/2010 10:55
Subject:        Re: [Fed-Talk] Outlook vs. Mail, iCal, and Address Book
Sent by:        fed-talk-bounces+edgell.joe=email@hidden




I can see how that would be a problem, but I look at it from a training
perspective.  It is MUCH easier to teach someone how to use one program
with one *gasp* well designed interface than try to have them learn three
very different interfaces.  Mail, iCal and Address Book are maddeningly
inconsistent even though they're theoretically supposed to work together.
I flat out never liked Mail, even though I use it all the time.  I just
don't think the iTunes interaction/organizational approach works very well
for e-mail.

Though it pains me to give them any credit, Microsoft has got this one
right.  Outlook would have saved me months of frustration when I was
working at a non-profit with offices spread across the country trying to
teach the employees how to transition to web-based collaborative services
from doing everything in Entourage with its obligatory 400GB unstable
database files.  Can't tell you how much political capital I burned when I
forced everyone to switch from POP to IMAP for their own benefit.  They
couldn't fathom why I was doing that until they got the iPhone religion.
Lots of lessons were learned from that war haha.

I will say that Apple slam dunked all three on the iPad.  Those interfaces
are amazing.

---
Jerry Blackmon <email@hidden>
Senior Systems Administrator

Office of Information Technology Operations
Bureau of Engraving and Printing
Department of Treasury

"The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to
change.  The realist adjusts the sails." -- William Arthur Ward




On 10/18/10 10:38 AM, "Joel Esler" <email@hidden> wrote:

>Now, see thwarts interesting Jerry, I guess it's all in what you like. I
>like the fact that Mac has their apps segregated into their single tasks.
>I've always hated how outlook tried to cram everything into one program.
>
>I don't want my mail program to be my calendar program. If I just want to
>look at the calendar, I was to launch iCal without the bloat of trying to
>get my current emails down from the server wt the same time.
>
>--
>Sent from my iPad
>
>On Oct 18, 2010, at 10:13 AM, "Blackmon Jerry (Contractor)"
><email@hidden> wrote:
>
>> You don't have the option of purchasing the apps individually, AFAIK.
>>You
>> buy Office, you get it all.
>>
>> In my experience, Mail is rather limited as an e-mail client.  And I
>>like
>> that most of the communication/collaboration tools you need in a
>>corporate
>> environment are integrated into one interface in the new Outlook.  Not
>>to
>> mention it's one less issue you'll have with PC users since, I'm told,
>>the
>> differences between Outlook Win and Outlook Mac are slight.  Easier to
>> switch someone over (or bring a Windows user into a Mac environment)
>> without having to teach them how to use Entourage or the
>>Mail/iCal/Address
>> Book combo.
>>
>> Oddly enough, Microsoft handed us a trojan horse.  With a full Outlook
>> client, what reason is there to support a Windows machine when a Mac can
>> do it all and then some?
>>
>> ---
>> Jerry Blackmon <email@hidden>
>> Senior Systems Administrator
>>
>> Office of Information Technology Operations
>> Bureau of Engraving and Printing
>> Department of Treasury
>>
>> "The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to
>> change.  The realist adjusts the sails." -- William Arthur Ward
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10/18/10 10:03 AM, "Yankopolus, Andreas" <email@hidden> wrote:
>>
>>> I've only used Outlook briefly on Windows machines and am wondering
>>>what
>>> it provides beyond the combination of Mail, iCal, and Address book. Is
>>> there a compelling reason to pay the extra money to get it along with
>>> Excel, PowerPoint, and Word? I know that Outlook's use of MAPI let's it
>>> circumvent the attachment limitation of the EWS interface used by
>>> Mail.app.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Andreas
>>>
>>> Andreas Yankopolus, Ph.D.
>>> Senior Systems Engineer
>>> Scientific Research Corporation
>>> 770-989-9474
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