Re: [Fed-Talk] What? No IPad2 Talk?
Re: [Fed-Talk] What? No IPad2 Talk?
- Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] What? No IPad2 Talk?
- From: "Pike, Michael (IHS/HQ)" <email@hidden>
- Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2011 12:12:54 -0500
- Acceptlanguage: en-US
- Thread-topic: [Fed-Talk] What? No IPad2 Talk?
iPod and iPad will not use SMS, it will use the apple id, they are to
different authentication mechanisms, they should have just use the apple
id one.
On 3/7/11 4:51 AM, "Villano, Paul Mr CIV USA TRADOC"
<email@hidden> wrote:
>Since the new WiFi only Ipad2 will use Facetime how could it be SMS?
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Boyd Fletcher <email@hidden>
>Date: Sunday, March 6, 2011 16:19
>Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] What? No IPad2 Talk?
>To: Mark <email@hidden>
>Cc: "email@hidden" <email@hidden>
>
>
>> Neither my Mac nor my iPod touch have cellular (and thus sms) and
>> FaceTime works with both. It does not require SMS to function.
>>
>> Boyd Fletcher
>> M: 757.535.8190
>> O: 410.854.4064
>> email@hidden
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>> Sent from my iPhone.
>>
>>
>> On Mar 6, 2011, at 12:43, Mark < wrote:
>>
>> > Sorry, but yes it does use SMS. This sets up the activation /
>>reservation. Please see
>>http://theiphonewiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=Facetime
>> >
>> > Cheers
>> > - Mark
>> >
>> > On Mar 6, 2011, at 2:58 PM, Boyd Fletcher wrote:
>> >
>> >> Joel, you are correct. FaceTime doesn't use SMS. It uses https,
>>xmpp, sip and stun. SMS is a cellular technology. FaceTime runs over
>>wifi although technically it could run over 3G since 3G is IP based but
>>apple/AT&T/Verizon won't let it because of b/w concerns.
>> >>
>> >>
>>http://www.paloaltonetworks.com/researchcenter/2010/08/whats-appening-wit
>>h-apple-facetime/
>> >>
>> >> Boyd Fletcher
>> >> M: 757.535.8190
>> >> O: 410.854.4064
>> >> E: email@hidden
>> >> E: email@hidden
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Mar 6, 2011, at 6:38, Joel Esler < wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> SMS? I didnt think FaceTime used SMS. What am I missing here?
>>FaceTime is a wifi thing.
>> >>>
>> >>> Use Skype.
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> Sent from my iPad
>> >>> Please excuse the brevity
>> >>>
>> >>> On Mar 5, 2011, at 11:45 AM, Mark < wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> <
>> >>>> Facetime as implemented on iphone4 just blows due to its
>>dependency on sms. The Mac and ipod Touch versions both utilize the
>>AppleID. What business decision caused them to be different with the
>>iphone?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I am lucky enough to be stationed oconus. Unlucky that my family
>>is unable to join me for the past 10 months with 4 more to go till they
>>can. I purchased an unlocked iphone from the local Apple Store, sent it
>>home. Facetime worked daily, even multiple times daily as promised for a
>>month. Then, it stops.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> It was wonderful to see and talk with my family. Troubleshooting,
>>Google showed folks saying it shouldn't have worked because T-Mobile
>>isn't an officially supported carrier. I call that a BS reason as the
>>thing worked for a month. My son went out and purchased the ipod touch
>>so at least now we can video chat across the ocean again and he can stop
>>bugging his mom for her iphone to listen to music.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Apple, remove the stupid dependency of sms for Facetime on the
>>iphone and let me just use my AppleID.
>> >>>> <
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Mar 4, 2011, at 11:47 PM, Joel Esler wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> Cameras were dumb at the time I think. Facetime changed that.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Mike -- face it, you are a hater. Or at least not an Apple-liker.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> As for cameras, I've said it here, and I'll say it again, cameras
>>are restricted in /certain/ environments. Not all. I have plenty a
>>friend that works for .gov/.mil that I use iChat with all the time.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> J
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Mar 4, 2011, at 2:27 PM, Villano, Paul Mr CIV USA TRADOC wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> Just because you say something doesn't make it true. Hater. :o)
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> I fully admit Apple is playing catch-up. As I said before, if
>>you look up my posts from last year you'll see me whining about no
>>cameras and peple saying how dumb cameras would be. Now everyone has or
>>wants them.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> The winning edge with the IPad is the huge amount of apps. When
>>Android catches up we'll talk. Hater. :o)
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>> >>>>>> From: "Pike, Michael (IHS/HQ)" <
>> >>>>>> Date: Friday, March 4, 2011 14:21
>> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] What? No IPad2 Talk?
>> >>>>>> To: "Villano, Paul Mr CIV USA TRADOC" <, Mac Federal <
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> I'm not being a hater but my samsung galaxy tab has had front
>>and
>> >>>>>>> rear cameras for months.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> And it runs android.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> I've developed for both and there is something "magical " about
>> >>>>>>> writing an application and having it approved right away as
>> >>>>>>> opposed to apple telling me what I can and can't do.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> I was very unimpressed with the ipad 2 although apple promotes
>>it
>> >>>>>>> like its the first dual processor device with magical and
>> >>>>>>> revolutionary cameras.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> You asked :)
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Mike
>> >>>>>>> Sent from my Google Nexus S
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> "Villano, Paul Mr CIV USA TRADOC" <>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> I'm confused. I thought for sure the list would be rampant
>>during the Apple presentation and since on talk of Ipad2 and the
>>implications for government. But (unless I've missed it) have seen
>>nothing. Why? (And don't say what the "haters" are sayig that there's
>>not much change, because the cameras themselves...And you remember my
>>saying how much they were missing on the original, right?...make it a
>>game changer, at least for Feds.)
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> We are about to start developing apps for Iphone (and
>>eventually Ipad) so I'm anxious to hear any pro's or cons and anything
>>else I can learn about updates in OS, hardware, and their impact.
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