Re: [Fed-Talk] Whoa Nelly
Re: [Fed-Talk] Whoa Nelly
- Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] Whoa Nelly
- From: Dave Schroeder <email@hidden>
- Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2012 14:35:20 -0500
On Sep 4, 2012, at 2:11 PM, Jeffrey Walton <email@hidden> wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 2:49 PM, Dave Schroeder <email@hidden> wrote:
>> Why is it going to "get interesting", given that UDIDs alone are near-worthless, that only app developers themselves could combine UDIDs with other information to track users, and that Apple has already been rejecting apps that abuse UDIDs in this way?
>>
> UDIDs are classified as non-public information. The are similar in
> sensitivity to IMSIs and IMEIs.
>
> Apple and Google are removing the ability of programs to retireve the
> information from their APIs. Windows Phone does not provide the
> functionality - period.
>
> The question should be (if the claims are true): what is the FBI doing
> with the non-public information, and how did they obtain it?
Naturally, you'll assume the worst -- instead of being concerned that an undefined group of people who largely consider themselves anarchists is breaking the official laptop of a US federal agent.
> The answer to the latter is probably chilling: I would suspect a
> partnership between priavate/corporate america and government
> (possibly a Fushion Center). It totally sidesteps protections afforded
> to us (the citizens).
You're making a fundamental mistake: Fourth Amendment protections still apply, and corporate/government "partnerships" do not allow the state to bypass it.
Fusion centers have ZERO to do with any of this, but it's a standard whipping boy among the Alex Jones/Infowars types, so I'm not surprised to see if come up here.
- Dave
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