Re: [Fed-Talk] Apple security update policy, Java
Re: [Fed-Talk] Apple security update policy, Java
- Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] Apple security update policy, Java
- From: "Beatty, Daniel D CIV NAVAIR, 474300D" <email@hidden>
- Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2013 17:16:18 +0000
- Thread-topic: [Fed-Talk] Apple security update policy, Java
Hi gang,
So do the user's get a vote? If they are the ones paying for it and the IT professionals for that matter, then how does one justify such discussion? The developers will certainly defend their product. If the product has been tested and passed, then what?
From a developer's and scientist's perspective, I find that egoless development is a useful tool in helping to crack down on such defects. Blames can circulate like a mean girls brew, and produce just about as devastating effects. Thus, what are we left with? I can only hope that the development processes have not devolved to such a low level.
V/R,
Daniel D. Beatty, Ph.D.
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Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] Apple security update policy, Java
Actually, Creative Suite doesn't need Java at all. Adobe is pointing the finger at Apple, blaming Apple for arbitrarily flagging CS as needing Java: http://forums.adobe.com/thread/1287264
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On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 2:27 PM, Neely, Lee <email@hidden<mailto:email@hidden>> wrote:
Adobe Creative Suite 6 (Dreamweaver) wants Java 1.6 installed
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On Oct 16, 2013, at 1:56 PM, Ron Colvin <email@hidden<mailto:email@hidden><mailto:email@hidden<mailto:email@hidden>>> wrote:
SSL VPN clients, On-line training and some web collaboration tools are the big ones.
On 10/16/13 1:42 PM, William Cerniuk wrote:
I can think of only one VA website that requires Java and in all reality, it should not. There are a small handful badly built installers that require Java on the Mac that I can think of… Most everything that requires Java exists on servers (or should) that I can think of.
So short of using that one VA website, I disable Java in Safari unilaterally and frequently uninstall after using it for that website.
Any killer Java apps out there that makes you keep Java on your workstation ? On my server, yes. For development, sure. For the normal user?
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