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Re: [Fed-Talk] Log stash, Elastic Search?
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Re: [Fed-Talk] Log stash, Elastic Search?


  • Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] Log stash, Elastic Search?
  • From: "Dan O'Donnell" <email@hidden>
  • Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2015 21:19:49 -0700

The author was the CSO for Splunk for a few years, until around 2011 iirc.

On Apr 28, 2015, at 5:58 PM, Joshua krage <email@hidden> wrote:

The ELK stack is in active use in some areas, including for "cyber" situational awareness. Big variations and scale of data and how many viewers making use of the outputs (dashboards, reports). More likely to be on the backend from most peoples' views.

Splunk provides some out-of-the-box elements that the other products don't provide as easily. These can include integration with other products using the product-native connector, or relaying to other products such as SIEMs. Splunk has built-in enterprise capabilities that help with alerting, dashboarding, selective access control, and integration with SIEM and other products. Not necessarily cheap, depending on your volume/velocity.

ELK and others are a more generic set of building blocks. Simple "log aggregation" and limited scope reporting (internal team vs end-users) can be done for the cost of infrastructure and management. For shops with the willingness to "tinker" (write integration code, manage infrastructure), you can do some really interesting things that may not be as easy with Splunk. Think connecting data in non-traditional ways. Groups already exploring big data or cross-discipline data (not just security folks) will see a lot of opportunities to explore.

O'Reilly just made a free report available that talks about the open source world for "security data lakes", where ELK is one example:
http://radar.oreilly.com/2015/04/how-to-implement-a-security-data-lake.html
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On 2015-04-28 16:27, Rowe, Walter wrote:
How do all of these compare to splunk?
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On Apr 28, 2015, at 3:54 PM, Valentine, Colin M. <email@hidden> wrote:

I suspect widely used based on secondary info I've heard, but may not be that public.  :-)

For an easy install, I use Graylog for monitoring non-work related stuff that I run.

Open Source: https://www.graylog.org/

Commercial:  https://www.graylog.com/

Colin

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On 4/28/15, 10:45, "Todd Heberlein" <email@hidden> wrote:

Is the government using Logstash, Elasticsearch, Kibana, etc.?  And in particular, is anyone using it to store, search, & analyze cyber related data? Also, any experience standing up the components on a Mac, or does everyone use Linux?

I’m debating on investing the time to standup a system using these pieces, but I don’t have a good feel as to how widely they are used.

Thanks,

Todd

PS. I am at the AFCEA C4ISR Symposium in San Diego this week if any Fed-Talkers are here.


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 >[Fed-Talk] Log stash, Elastic Search? (From: Todd Heberlein <email@hidden>)
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 >Re: [Fed-Talk] Log stash, Elastic Search? (From: "Rowe, Walter" <email@hidden>)
 >Re: [Fed-Talk] Log stash, Elastic Search? (From: Joshua krage <email@hidden>)

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