Re: Installer plugins on 10.3
Re: Installer plugins on 10.3
- Subject: Re: Installer plugins on 10.3
- From: Mike <email@hidden>
- Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 16:38:03 -0700
That may be true, but supporting simple Cocoa bundles does not rely on
any OS-specific feature. I can write a single Cocoa app as a bundle that
runs on both 10.4 and 10.3 and since installer plugins are simple
bundles, there is no reason the installer in 10.3 cannot support them
(no technology-specific requirement such as Spotlight, etc).
As for "will in the future", when exactly might that be? I've got a
product to release now and I'm going to be forced to have 2 different
SKU's for it just over the installer issue because I'm going to have to
build a VISE installer and pay them royalties for our 10.3 users.
Either that or write my own installer from scratch and dump Apple's junk
once and for all (which will delay my product another month).
If I can write an installer that can run on both 10.3 and 10.4 from
scratch, I imagine Apple can manage it with it's 1000+ engineers Steve
is always bragging about.
23% of OS X users are still on 10.3 according to The Steve's big glossy
pie-chart at WWDC. Am I supposed to just ignore a quarter of the entire
customer base because Apple's can make a simple change to the installer
in a 10.3.x update? Or spend an extra month writing what Apple should
have just to be able to sell to that 23%?
I have been a Mac developer for 17 years but I am getting tired of
having to jump through hoops to get my product to work on 3 versions of
the OS and doing things Apple should provide in the first place.
Mike
Bill Coderre wrote:
On Jul 24, 2007, at 12:44 PM, Peter Mulholland wrote:
Tuesday, July 24, 2007, 12:34:57 PM, someone wrote:
They just added stuff that were not available in 10.3. Would you
prefer they did not add anything from 10.3 to 10.4?
*I* would prefer they push updates to the Installer.app back to 10.3,
especially such crucial ones.
Apple are worse than Microsoft for this crap... far far worse... MS
could have made MSI only work on 2K/XP, but no - it works on 9x as
well.
Apple in the past has revised older installer versions for security
issues, and I imagine that they will in the future.
Note that there are a LOT of interdependencies between the installer and
the OS, because of the way that the OS gets installed (we boot off the
new OS while installing it). So pushing the new installer features back
to older OS versions is a very difficult task, and we could "never," for
example, support installer features that rely on, say, Spotlight.
But. Please file a bug like this, and tell all your friends to add a "me
too."
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