Re: Reconnecting to modified media
Re: Reconnecting to modified media
- Subject: Re: Reconnecting to modified media
- From: David Heidelberger <email@hidden>
- Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 20:27:31 -0500
Thanks Ky,
That's the behavior I would expect. Except the media is unedited. In
testing, I imported, stripped the tracks, and then reconnected. I
even deleted the default blank sequence from the new project. The
project only has my test clips. When the error message called the
clip a "sequence," that certainly gave me pause. There are no
sequences or edits anywhere. Also, I get the same result if I delete
the tracks by hand in Quicktime.
The Log and Transfer window does let you specify the tracks, yes. But
the point of this utility is if the user forgets to do that.
- David
On Jan 13, 2009, at 3:27 PM, Ky Hopwood wrote:
David
It sounds as if you have edited the original media, including the
audio tracks that you don't desire and going to be tossing away.
If you just imported the old media or only edited the video tracks
( or the tracks that are going to be in the new media ), then you
should not get an error. If however you have used all of your
tracks, then I would expect for this error to happen.
By the way, the Log and Transfer input settings don't allow you to
configure to only import the tracks you wish on your camera? That
is likely too obvious, but I thought to ask just in case that was
overlooked.
Assuming it doesn't, just do the following ( before editing) :
1/ transfer media
2/ use your tool to strip the unused tracks
3/ reconnect to the new media.
In that scenario, assuming that they were stripped properly, then
it should work.
Thanks Andreas,
I appreciate the thoughts. I realize it's not truly deleting
audio. It's not really to free up space, it's more a convenience
so that when the assistant editor accidentally digitizes 16 audio
tracks over SDI or whatever, you don't have to continually disable
14 of them or waste time redigitizing. Since it's really for
convenience, I was trying to make a simple, free utility so that
you don't have to shell out 400 euros for MXF4QT (although I hear
it's pretty fantastic, I may have to look into it for other uses).
Also, since it's for correcting mistakes after-the-fact, it's
designed for a user who hasn't captured audio and video separately
(I don't think I've ever met anyone who does that). Anyway, still
looking for thoughts on that error message.
Thanks,
- David
On Jan 13, 2009, at 2:13 PM, Andreas Kiel wrote:
Hello,
I don't know what your utility does but just deleting an audio
track not really removes the track - it just removes the internal
QT reference. Just look at the file size before and after. But
you can create a new referenced movie that only contains video
for example.
With P2 you can use the mxf4mac component and you'll never get
this problem again as with this component P2 files/tracks are
kept as the are - discreet files.
Another option is to capture audio video to different locations.
This will allow you to delete the audio from the QT file in a way
you described since the audio is only a reference within the QT
file and Final Cut will re-connect correctly.
Andreas Kiel
On 13.01.2009, at 18:58, David Heidelberger wrote:
Hello all,
Sometimes in Final Cut, particularly with newer hard-disk
cameras, you can wind up mistakenly digitizing or log-and-
transferring media with way more audio tracks than you need. It
can become a hassle to constantly be disabling audio tracks
while you're editing, so I wrote a little utility program that
can strip out excess audio tracks from Quicktime movies,
basically batching the same functionality you get when you go
into the properties window in Quicktime Pro and delete tracks by
hand.
For a while, this was fine. You could delete the audio tracks
and Final Cut would make the media offline. When you
reconnected, it would give you a warning about not being able to
find all the tracks, but would reconnect to the media no
problem. Somewhere around either 6.0.2 or 6.0.4, something
changed and now when I reconnect the media, after going through
the warning in the reconnect files window and hitting "Connect,"
I get this message:
"The file does not have enough audio tracks to reconnect to
'0003RG' at time 08:59:10;14 in sequence '0003RG'. Click 'OK' to
make this item independent and go to the next clip or 'Cancel'
to skip all clips from this file."
This is using P2 media, and the timecode is the media start time
of the clip. Trouble is, neither option seems to do anything.
Cancel just cancels out. And hitting okay leaves the clip offline.
I've figured out a semi-workaround using Batch Lists and/or XML,
but that complicates what was a very simple utility. I guess I
don't really have a question, but I'm wondering what should
happen if I click "OK" in that dialogue box? Shouldn't it
reconnect to my media, but make it a new, independent clip?
Since it doesn't, is that a bug? Also, as an aside note, I think
Final Cut should be a bit more flexible about missing audio
tracks, like it used to be.
Thanks,
- David Heidelberger
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