Re: [Rockies-Edu] Rockies-edu Digest, Vol 50, Issue 15
Re: [Rockies-Edu] Rockies-edu Digest, Vol 50, Issue 15
- Subject: Re: [Rockies-Edu] Rockies-edu Digest, Vol 50, Issue 15
- From: "Chandler, Derek" <email@hidden>
- Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2013 10:18:06 -0600
Thanks everyone. Helpful information.
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1. Re: Rockies-edu Digest, Vol 50, Issue 14 (Timothy L. Brewer)
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Derek,
We've used rEFIt in our triple boot iMac lab. Not sure how that would work with Deep Freeze or how it compares to Boot Runner (or Boot Picker). rEFIt is free.
Biggest challenge for the users was the mouse. I actually took a sharpie and drew a line to separate the left and right sides so people could left/right click. Doh!
Cheers,
Tim
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Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2013 08:31:49 -0600
From: Corey Carson <email@hidden>
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Hi Derek,
For dual-boot solutions that allow end users to choose the OS, Boot Runner is a great solution that also provides a support option, should you need one. For a solution that wipes changes on reboots, give Deep Freeze a look.
http://twocanoes.com/pricing/boot-runner/education/ ($300 for a lab)
http://www.faronics.com/products/deep-freeze/mac/
Thanks,
Corey
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Apple Education
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On Apr 18, 2013, at 8:24 AM, "Chandler, Derek" <email@hidden> wrote:
I am wanting to put in a iMac lab. However, I want it to dual boot with Windows. I know about boot camp and VM Ware fusion. However, is their an easy software that will allow the user, when approaching the computer, to choose which operating system they want to use? I have seen it in hotel business centers. Example. http://www.elevenwireless.com/bcdemo
Also, is their a mac software that wipe away all changes that are done in the lab every night. Similar to what happens in the Apple Store?
Regards,
DEREK CHANDLER
Director of Technology
J.K. Mullen High School
3601 South Lowell Boulevard
Denver, CO 80236
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Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2013 08:32:15 -0600
From: Jesse Cole <email@hidden>
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There is a program called bootpicker that will allow a user to choose the os. To reset the state of the machine, deep freeze from faronics is a popular choice.
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On Apr 18, 2013, at 8:25 AM, "Chandler, Derek" <email@hidden> wrote:
I am wanting to put in a iMac lab. However, I want it to dual boot with Windows. I know about boot camp and VM Ware fusion. However, is their an easy software that will allow the user, when approaching the computer, to choose which operating system they want to use? I have seen it in hotel business centers. Example. http://www.elevenwireless.com/bcdemo
Also, is their a mac software that wipe away all changes that are done in the lab every night. Similar to what happens in the Apple Store?
Regards,
DEREK CHANDLER
Director of Technology
J.K. Mullen High School
3601 South Lowell Boulevard
Denver, CO 80236
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Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2013 09:05:09 -0600
From: Erik Black <email@hidden>
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Hi Derek,
There's an EFI loader called rEFIt that automatically pulls up a boot choice screen at computer startup (for a Boot Camp situation). I haven't used it in a few years, but seemed to work all right. After searching, I found that rEFIt is no longer maintained, but they have a new product called rEFInd. Neither of these would help with a VMWare/Paralllels situation.
http://refit.sourceforge.net
http://www.rodsbooks.com/refind/
I've never used it, but Deep Freeze for Mac may do what you want with keeping the machine's state. Thinking about it, you'd actually have to buy two products, one for the Mac side and one for the Windows side.
http://www.faronics.com/products/deep-freeze/mac/
Just as an aside, we've stopped purchasing iMacs because of the higher price and really painful service with the new models. We're now buying Mac minis and using a Sonnet VESA bracket to mount them on the back of third-party displays. We're saving about $300 a unit and reducing our service headaches.
-Erik
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I am wanting to put in a iMac lab. However, I want it to dual boot with
Windows. I know about boot camp and VM Ware fusion. However, is their an
easy software that will allow the user, when approaching the computer, to
choose which operating system they want to use? I have seen it in hotel
business centers. Example. http://www.elevenwireless.com/bcdemo
Also, is their a mac software that wipe away all changes that are done in
the lab every night. Similar to what happens in the Apple Store?
Regards,
*DEREK CHANDLER*
*Director of Technology*
J.K. Mullen High School
3601 South Lowell Boulevard
Denver, CO 80236
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Changes to a shared profile or changes to the systems because users are admins?
In our normal iMac lab we have a “default” user in /User/default that gets copied to the AD account profile on login. Similar to the default account template built into OS X - /System/Library/User\ Template/English.lproj/. The benefit is that users can change their profile as much as the want (not admins) and on subsequent logins they get the base profile they need to use the system. It is easier to modify on the fly than the /System/* template because I can login to Default and make changes without copying files around.
We have 6 shared systems for video editing that took some local permission and OD work to get right. The systems auto-login to a shared non admin account, we use OD/Work Group manager to set the Dock, and local *nix permissions so they can’t delete desktop icons. The can delete each other’s files if left on the system, but that hasn’t been a problem in 2-3 years.
I have used DeepFreeze in the past and we do in our specialized PC labs, but I haven’t felt the need for it in our OS X labs.
We have used BootPicker on our dual boot iMac lab for 3+ years without any problems.
Thanks,
Eric Schneider
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Subject: [Rockies-Edu] iMac Computer Lab
I am wanting to put in a iMac lab. However, I want it to dual boot with Windows. I know about boot camp and VM Ware fusion. However, is their an easy software that will allow the user, when approaching the computer, to choose which operating system they want to use? I have seen it in hotel business centers. Example. http://www.elevenwireless.com/bcdemo
Also, is their a mac software that wipe away all changes that are done in the lab every night. Similar to what happens in the Apple Store?
Regards,
DEREK CHANDLER
Director of Technology
J.K. Mullen High School
3601 South Lowell Boulevard
Denver, CO 80236
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