Re: [Rockies-Edu] Rockies-edu Digest, Vol 102, Issue 3
Re: [Rockies-Edu] Rockies-edu Digest, Vol 102, Issue 3
- Subject: Re: [Rockies-Edu] Rockies-edu Digest, Vol 102, Issue 3
- From: Don Cochran <email@hidden>
- Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2017 15:24:19 -0600
We are using AirTame on several of our projectors. It is a $299 device that
seems to work fairly well. You can download a client from their website and
it is a cross platform solution - even works on Chromebooks.
On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 3:09 PM, Dan Miller <email@hidden>
wrote:
> Thanks Mike. I'd already reviewed both of those, but as you say, they
> don't really answer the question. We have some fairly adaptable Infocus
> projectors, and I can make a marginal improvement, maybe 20% bigger, with
> the digital zoom before it starts overscanning, but then that has to be
> "undone" when they hook up to their Macbooks. I am going to start playing
> with wireless solutions again, see if that gets me anywhere. Just seems
> crazy it's this difficult to get a full-screen display from the iPad.
>
> Dan
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> I should have mentioned, I'm pretty much still looking for a hard-wire
> solution. We already have Airserver, but have had so many issues with it
> we've largely abandoned it. It looks like they have updated their product
> somewhat, and maybe it's time to take another look, but the underlying
> technology hasn't changed, so far as I know. We have high-density Meraki
> MR34 APs that work pretty well for everything else, just not AirPlay!
> Talking to Airserver and Cisco support turned into a finger-pointing
> exercise, so I gave it up. And since it primarily seems to be an AirPlay
> problem, I don't know that Reflector will be any better - I think it's
> pretty much the same technology. But if I'm wrong, someone please correct
> me!
>
> I'm not opposed to going wireless in general. There is of course an
> ever-expanding range of wireless mirroring/streaming choices, but I haven't
> seen anything yet that looks like it just "works" reliably, easily, and is
> at least somewhat manageable/secure.
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> Dan
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> 1. iPad HDMI Mirroring Scaling Issue (Dan Miller)
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> Good morning. Over the last year, we have converted most of our classrooms
> to HDMI-only inputs to their projectors. We have discovered a problem with
> connecting the iPads via the HDMI dongle, where the displayed image is much
> smaller than the overall viewable area of the projector. Teachers are
> understandably not happy with this, and want their VGA input back (which
> projected the iPad at full-size). The iPads in question are primarily Airs
> and Air II's assigned to the teachers, there may be a few iPad 4's from our
> one-to-one program as well. I have read through a bunch of related threads
> online about this, but haven't found anything remotely definitive. Some
> reference the aspect ratio, some using Apple TV, etc., but nothing really
> seems to address the issue directly. Has anyone else experienced this,
> and/or have a fix?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dan Miller
> Technology Specialist
> Telluride School District
> (970)-369-1235
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> Have you tried using Reflector 2? It is an app that works with a PC and
> Mac. They could connect the laptop to the HDMI and reflect the iPad to the
> laptop. We have a site license for our school.
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> http://www.airsquirrels.com/reflector/
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> [http://www.airsquirrels.com/images/rf2-logo-home_2x.png]<h
> ttp://www.airsquirrels.com/reflector/>
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> Reflector 2 | Wireless mirroring & streaming for Android ...<
> http://www.airsquirrels.com/reflector/>
> www.airsquirrels.com
> Reflector is a wireless mirroring and streaming receiver for Android
> devices, iPhone, iPads, iPods, Computers and Chromebooks.
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> Kelly Lucero
>
> Technician
> Cherry Hills Village Elementary
> 720-747-2717
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> Subject: [Rockies-Edu] iPad HDMI Mirroring Scaling Issue
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> Good morning. Over the last year, we have converted most of our classrooms
> to HDMI-only inputs to their projectors. We have discovered a problem with
> connecting the iPads via the HDMI dongle, where the displayed image is much
> smaller than the overall viewable area of the projector. Teachers are
> understandably not happy with this, and want their VGA input back (which
> projected the iPad at full-size). The iPads in question are primarily Airs
> and Air II’s assigned to the teachers, there may be a few iPad 4’s from our
> one-to-one program as well. I have read through a bunch of related threads
> online about this, but haven’t found anything remotely definitive. Some
> reference the aspect ratio, some using Apple TV, etc., but nothing really
> seems to address the issue directly. Has anyone else experienced this,
> and/or have a fix?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dan Miller
> Technology Specialist
> Telluride School District
> (970)-369-1235
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> From: "Michael T. Scott" <email@hidden>
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> Hi Dan,
>
> It’s always striking to see the iPad in windowbox, aka underscan, what
> it’s called when you have black bars on top and on bottom, when mirrored.
>
> If you ever want an official answer to a specific and reproducible issue
> like this, I encourage you to contact AppleCare who can directly support
> you, it’s always comforting to have a final word on what you can and cannot
> support. AppleCare Education: 1-800-800-2775 option 3.
>
> iOS supports several resolution modes while mirroring. You’ve probably
> seen iPad mirror fullscreen video in the native resolution and ratio
> without windowboxing, through AirPlay or the lightning HDMI adapter. That
> said home screen mirroring and default mirroring for apps behaves a little
> differently, typically displayed in windowbox (apps may use a custom
> view/resolution when mirroring, hence fullscreen video playback). Part of
> this is the challenge in being able to mirror the home screen and apps in
> portrait and landscape modes on the fly.
>
> The most recently updated support article I found around this topic is
> this:
>
> About overscan and underscan on your Mac, Apple TV, or other display
> (August 2017)
> https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202763
>
> Just before that this one was updated:
>
> About Apple Digital AV Adapters for iPhone, iPad, and iPod touch (July
> 2017)
> https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202044
>
> Neither precisely addresses what we're talking about here but help provide
> Apple perspective.
>
> Let me know if I can help any more.
>
> -Mike
>
>
> Michael Scott, Systems Engineer
> Apple Education
> Apple Inc.
> (720) 346-3871
> www.apple.com/education
>
>
> > On Sep 7, 2017, at 10:28 AM, Dan Miller <email@hidden>
> wrote:
> >
> > Good morning. Over the last year, we have converted most of our
> classrooms to HDMI-only inputs to their projectors. We have discovered a
> problem with connecting the iPads via the HDMI dongle, where the displayed
> image is much smaller than the overall viewable area of the projector.
> Teachers are understandably not happy with this, and want their VGA input
> back (which projected the iPad at full-size). The iPads in question are
> primarily Airs and Air II’s assigned to the teachers, there may be a few
> iPad 4’s from our one-to-one program as well. I have read through a bunch
> of related threads online about this, but haven’t found anything remotely
> definitive. Some reference the aspect ratio, some using Apple TV, etc., but
> nothing really seems to address the issue directly. Has anyone else
> experienced this, and/or have a fix?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Dan Miller
> > Technology Specialist
> > Telluride School District
> > (970)-369-1235
> >
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