Re: Another perspective on WebObjects
Re: Another perspective on WebObjects
- Subject: Re: Another perspective on WebObjects
- From: "THOMAS PETERS" <email@hidden>
- Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 13:49:36 -0500
Don't giveup.
The problem you discribe is often miss-directed. Try i-net OPTA 2000
Version 4.13 for MS SQL Server. THis is a solid JDBC database driver and
will post likely solve your problems.
Tom
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>From: "John Martin" >To: >Subject: Another perspective on WebObjects
>Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 13:43:06 -0500 > >We are a small company that
needs to migrate some PC based applications >working with SQL Server to
browser based applications and currently all >of our apps depend on MS
SQL server. I was very impressed by what I had >read about WebObjects,
and I went and purchased a new G4 Powerbook and >ordered a copy of
WebObjects from Amazon.Com. "Incredible", is an >understatement to
describe what WebObjects produces provided you use the >OpenBase database
and follow the tutorial application. But after 2 >frustrating weeks, I
believe we will pull the plug and use CodeCharge >instead for the
following reasons: > >1. WebObjects is supposed to connect to MS SQL
easily. It doesn't, >and finding documentation for the process is more
difficult than finding >the Holy Grail. Personally I don't have a high
opinion of MS server >software, especially MS Exchange, but MS inevitably
becomes the center >of the universe in everything they actively pursue.
Making connections >difficult to MS SQL may delight some, but it makes
adoption for the >majority of businesses prohibitive. >2. I bought
WebObjects brand new from Amazon.Com, unfortunately I >was stupid enough
to buy 5.1, if I want the version that is supposed to >work, I need to
buy 5.2 all over again at full price. I know other >software companies
have deserved reputations for sometimes really >sticking their customers,
but this has to rank up there in the hall of >fame of customer sticking.
I understand that this software once cost >$300,000, and the first PC
cost $10,000, ancient history is no barometer >for the fair present value
of anything computer related. Once upon a >time, I worked on a platform
called the AS/400, once upon a time the >AS/400 made up 8 of the 10
highest selling computer system slots. Once >upon a time the AS/400 was
the most productive and cost effective >platform for developing
enterprise software, and once upon a time IBM >slept when GUI's took over
the world. >3. Third party documentation. Good luck walking into Barnes
and >Noble and finding a book that even mentions WebObjects, or anywhere
>else. Am I the only person who has spent an afternoon desperately trying
>to find even a page of documentation at any thing that resembles a
>computer or book store? If I want ASP.NET, I can find a shelf of books
>at my grocery store, (well, not really, but B&N has 2 cases full of
>ASP.NET books). Online documentation, it's "fantastic", as long as you
>want to create anything like the tutorial apps, forget about anything
>different that the tutorial apps. Take a week of education, that would
>be nice, but a week of education is not needed for other productive
>development environments, they have something called documentation, not
>secret handshakes and decoder rings. > >I really liked the potential I
saw in WebObjects, if it had worked out, >then I had planned to buy
another Powerbook for our Senior Programmer, >and an XServe system to
serve up our apps, but IMHO if Apple wants long >term switches from the
PC platform to the Apple platform, then they must >aggressively support
the application development community and make it >easily to migrate
application software from the PC's to Macs. > >History truly repeats
itself, and the history of any platform and it's >related success or
failure is directly related to the availability and >function of
application software. Trotting home users onto television >who either
strictly use those apps that Mac has always done well, or >your run of
the mill AOL users is not going to generate a groundswell of >switchers
to the Apple platform. > > >Disappointed John
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