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Re: Learning Mac programming
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Re: Learning Mac programming


  • Subject: Re: Learning Mac programming
  • From: Chuck Hill <email@hidden>
  • Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2003 11:09:54 -0700
  • Organization: Global Village Consulting, Inc.

I'd say pick one of Cocoa or WO and focus on that. Then, before you start, spend some time learning the basics of Java or Objective-C. Even for a very experienced developer learning Obj-C and Java and WO and Cocoa development at the same time is a Herculean, probably impossible, task.

When you can focus on one particular topic it will be a lot easier to find materials. I'd say probably one to two years (!) of part time study to get reasonably up to speed in WO, depending on your current level of understanding of programming and web apps. We plan on five years from graduation from a university level comp sci program to a reasonable mastery of WO including web apps and the many, many associated skills. Before you get too panicky, this is for "mastery" which I define and being able to train others. We figure about 6 - 9 months of full time professional work is needed to achieve a reasonable level of productivity.

HTH
Chuck


David Thorp wrote:
Actually...

My previous posts were trying to find an employer who would hire me as a trainee programmer and teach me the ropes. It seems that's too far fetched an idea. So let's say instead that I just start from scratch and teach myself (or find an appropriate teacher) programming the Mac. From what I understand of it all, I'd really like to learn Cocoa, and WebObjects.

My understanding at the moment, is that Cocoa requires objective-C or Java. I've seen a few books etc. on objective C and Cocoa, but it seems they require a good understanding of C or C++ first. Is all that correct?

I know none of these (C/C++/Java/Objective-C/Cocoa). And as for WebObjects, I think I have a pretty good understanding of what it can produce, but I have no idea where to start as far as learning it, or what I need to know first.

Can anyone direct me to any learning materials that could teach me all these skills. I realise there's a lot to learn, but I'm willing to put in the time and effort if I can find the right teaching materials/people. (The only thing I don't have a lot of to put in is $$, but that may only be a short term problem).

Any advice would be most appreciated.

Regards,
David Thorp.
Sydney/Brisbane, Australia
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