Re: WebObjects vs. Microsoft's .NET
Re: WebObjects vs. Microsoft's .NET
- Subject: Re: WebObjects vs. Microsoft's .NET
- From: Ricardo Strausz <email@hidden>
- Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 15:42:05 -0500
Hi Goodbye!
On miircoles, mayo 28, 2003, at 23:18 America/Mexico_City, Goodbye Bill
wrote:
First, thanks to everyone that has helped me move from a Microsoft
platform
to a Mac. Second, I need the advice from a few of you that can take a
minute or two to be brutally honest. What the heck is WebObjects good
for?
To build object-oriented apps to be deployed over the web.
It also includes ---my favorite part--- EOF the best object-oriented
framework to manage db-connectivity, and the "unsuported" Cocoa/EO to
use it inside OSX(S).
I have been developing on a Microsoft platform for many years -- over
the
last decade or so, all web stuff. I WANT to move to a Mac but I am
finding
my hands tied. I just spent $700 on a copy of WebObjects, but it
seems to
be worthless. Maybe it's me. Maybe its the online docs. Still, it
doesn't
look like WebObjects really DOES anything.
You cannot mean that; with WO you CAN build, from a db-based web-server
with out writing a single line of code (D2W and D2J), to a full
customized app... no that ease, but it CAN BE DONE!
When you realy learn WO (at least in a, say, 50% base) you will find
that almost everything you may nead is there and you CAN do it writing
VERY FEW LINES OF CODE. Of course, such a gema cannot be learned in a
couple of months... I know EOF since 1995 and I am still learning.
From what I can tell, WebObjects brings EOModler to the table and will
make
life easier for the "database-to-UI" tasks.
Not presicely... EOF is the back-end and the front-end may be WOBuilder
(I mean HTML), Cocoa, Java Swing or even a UNIX terminal; EOModeler is
only one more app which does back-and-forth engine of a db... in fact,
EOModeler uses EOF (and the Java-bridge).
Apparently, if I want to do
anything OTHER than read from a database I've got to code a separate
Java
piece and then find some way to plug that piece into the site that I've
created using WebObjects.
I am not a WO expert but, if you are right in this, you are right also
in complain... so, you cannot be right (jiji).
Any component is generated with its own Java-source... you can write
code inside there or simply add your custom object to the project and
connect the objects in WOBuilder.
In my example application, I am trying to create a web-based email
service
(just for the learning aspect). Based on what I am finding (or NOT
finding), here is what I appear to need...
First of all, this is not a simple task to a beginner to start with...
... the database is modeled using EOModler;
Yap!
... the web-based front end is created using WO and ProjectBuilder;
and,
It realy depends; you want it on the web, then only use WOBuilder.
... I will need to create a separate Java applet for any parsing
or manipulation of files and find some way to get the WO front
end
to use those Java pieces.
NOP! as i said, you can write your code in the Component's java-file.
(am I right list?)
Is this correct?
Not presicely!
If so, then what did I spend the $700 for? In .NET, for
example, everything is done in one IDE, with one language, and one set
of
class files for everything -- although you CAN break out the various
classes
and objects into separate projects, you are not forced to.
So? the same with WO... any difference? does .NET has an equivalent to
D2W? to D2J? to EOF?
to Cocoa????? came on!!!!!
Can someone tell me what I'm missing?
Experience??
a name?
Dino
http://homepage.mac.com/strausz
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