Re: So what is a good approach to learning WebObjects?
Re: So what is a good approach to learning WebObjects?
- Subject: Re: So what is a good approach to learning WebObjects?
- From: Alex Eiser <email@hidden>
- Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 23:32:57 -0500
I am in a similar situation my self. I do not have the luxury of
purchasing books (student Budget), but I have found apple's manuals to
be very useful. The ones included with the package or available on the
ADC website. They give a fairly detailed walk through for creating
simple JAVA & Web applications, as well as giving decent explanations
for why you are doing specific things.
One important note: I have found you should download openbase8 (
http://www.openbase.com/beta/OpenBase8.0_MacOSX.dmg ) Openbase 7
doesn't let you edit data. You can of course also work with another
database app.
I have been learning mostly by reading the documentation and by
attempting to write the project to my requirements. I am not going to
say that is the only way to learn WO, but it has been very effective
for me.
Alex
On 15-Nov-03, at 11:10 PM, Alice Oaks wrote:
> I've been at this for a few weeks now but I feel like I'm going around
> in
> circles, so I thought I should stop and ask for directions. :)
>
> I started out with Josh Marker's new book, but it's not really
> intended for
> beginners. That is, it gives copious detail on how to do things, but
> it's
> not organized in a tutorial fashion (nor was it intended to be) so you
> have
> to know what you're looking for.
>
> I then switched to Apple's Getting Started with WebObjects tutorial.
> I got
> through the first part ok (the guest book) but got stuck on the Movie
> app
> because you have to set it up with the Application Wizard which
> doesn't seem
> to exist in Xcode.
>
> So I went and bought Ravi Mendis' book. It reminds me a lot of some of
> those week-long intensive training courses I got sent to back when I
> was
> working for a big company. You can follow along and produce something
> that
> works, but there's not enough information on *why* you are doing
> things.
> You just type along, following the bouncing ball. He also fades the
> detail
> a bit too quickly; some of the steps need more explanation than they
> have.
>
> Ideally, I'd like a book that combines the organization of the Mendis
> book
> with the explanatory detail of the Marker book. Even better would be
> one
> that is accurate (I've already run into one spot in the Mendis book
> where
> I'm supposed to rebind a variable I can't find the instructions for
> creating); there's nothing more frustrating than not knowing if you
> screwed
> up or the book is just wrong.
>
> Does such a book exist? Is there some other Apple documentation I
> should be
> reading? Or am I on the wrong track altogether?
>
> My background looks like this: lots of web development but using
> scripting
> languages, so my thinking is still fairly procedural. I'm very
> comfortable
> with databases and SQL; we currently use Oracle and Postgres
> extensively.
> No Java experience but I was a C++ programmer once upon a time, so I
> can
> read most Java code and understand what it's doing though I may need a
> bit
> of study before I can write my own.
>
> A roadmap to finding the right information in the right order would be
> much
> appreciated!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Alice
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