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Re: So what is a good approach to learning WebObjects?
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Re: So what is a good approach to learning WebObjects?


  • Subject: Re: So what is a good approach to learning WebObjects?
  • From: Arturo PĂ©rez <email@hidden>
  • Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 00:34:34 -0500

On Nov 15, 2003, at 11:10 PM, Alice Oaks wrote:

I've been at this for a few weeks now but I feel like I'm going around in
circles, so I thought I should stop and ask for directions. :)

The best way to get useable directions is to know where you want to go. What's
your objective with WO? Is it faster RDBMS->Web development? Is it more O-O
oriented Web development? Is it you're stuck with Apple stuff and you're
trying to make a go of it?


Usually the people that come to WebObjects have the attitude that
"I know how to do an RDBMS." "I know how to do web pages." And so you end up
wanting to do the thing the way you're used to doing it rather than following
the lead of WebObjects. It's sort of like trying to use a knife as a screwdriver.
You can do it. It will work eventually. But it's incredibly frustrating.
Better to use the knife as a knife etc.


Or am I on the wrong track altogether?

I would think you'd be better off working on something of more interest to yourself.
Take a little thing you already have and use the books you've purchased as
references to rewrite it as WebObjects. A phone directory, something like that.
My experience with the examples is that they try to get you to do too much at a
time.


Ask a ton of questions on the list. Try to go to Apple's training. Try to get
a hold of Apple's training books.


My background looks like this: lots of web development but using scripting
languages, so my thinking is still fairly procedural.

A procedural mentality is very very bad for this sort of thing. Here's the
trick. When you use WO to create a popup list do you spend time
trying to figure out how to convert the selected string into something else?


Here's a contrived example. I have a bunch of pets with associated owners.
I create a popup list to display the pets' names. When a pet's name is selected and
I hit submit I want to display the owner's address. How would you go about
doing that?


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