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Re: Anything new on the Horizon of Webobjects
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Re: Anything new on the Horizon of Webobjects


  • Subject: Re: Anything new on the Horizon of Webobjects
  • From: Colin Clark <email@hidden>
  • Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 11:43:36 -0500

Yawn. Do we really have to go through this again?

WebObjects works. It is being maintained and updated regularly by Apple (5.2.2, anyone?). People are using WebObjects for large production applications. It forms the basis for Apple's own innovative Web application products. It's also cloaked in a lot of secrecy, is poorly advertised, and is complicated to learn for a beginner. But it's certainly not a dying technology.

The key to making a decision about technology like this is to evaluate your needs in terms of cost, support, and flexibility. WebObjects is not open-source, Tapestry/Hibernate (or Cayenne) are. WebObjects provides a supported, comprehensive, integrated solution for page templating, database persistence, and deployment. Other solutions tend to be more of a mix-and-match, multiple vendor solution. These are project-specific needs that you likely know best. I think Tapestry has gained a lot of legitimacy from its involvement with the Jakarta project, and looks like a great tool.

No one knows for sure what the future of WebObjects is. It's clear from attending WWDC that it is still being actively developed and the WO team has a vision for the future. Now if they'd only tell us... ;)

If anything is dead here, it's the "Is WebObjects Dead?" discussions that seem to have persisted for the past several years. If you really want to go back and read other discussions on this matter, have a look at the Omnni list archives.

Colin



On Tuesday, October 28, 2003, at 11:07 AM, James Hays wrote:

This question may have been asked before, and if it has, please point me to the responses gathered from it. But, other than this list, I have seen very little drive for web objects? Is this a dieing technology? Is it being replaced? Apple makes very little reference to it in their training and WWDC makes it seem like it died 3 years ago. All other technologies are up beat saying, this is what we are doing. Webobjects presentations are, this is what we've done.

I'm at a crucial junction in my decision making. .Net is not an option, Struts sucks, and Tapestry looks very good. My current debate is between a Tapestry/Hibernate model or going with WebObjects. I would like to know what kind of work is being done for the future of webobjects and what will drive it into the future?

Thanks.

James
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