Re: Anything new on the Horizon of Webobjects
Re: Anything new on the Horizon of Webobjects
- Subject: Re: Anything new on the Horizon of Webobjects
- From: petite_abeille <email@hidden>
- Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 19:24:14 +0100
On Oct 28, 2003, at 17:43, Colin Clark wrote:
Yawn. Do we really have to go through this again?
Oh, come on honey, tonight is the night... it will be fun... :)
WebObjects works.
If you are willing to enter its distortion field, then yes.
It is being maintained and updated regularly by Apple (5.2.2, anyone?).
At Apple's whims?
People are using WebObjects for large production applications.
Legacy?
It forms the basis for Apple's own innovative Web application
products.
By default?
It's also cloaked in a lot of secrecy, is poorly advertised, and is
complicated to learn for a beginner. But it's certainly not a dying
technology.
Yep.
The key to making a decision about technology like this is to evaluate
your needs in terms of cost, support, and flexibility.
Right... such relativism, while popular in some academic circles, is
not of much concrete help...
What about spelling out some concrete reason(s) to choose WebObjects
today for a new project? What does WebObjects brings to the table
except an headache?
Considering that this is an Apple hosted mailing list:
"Messieurs les Anglais, tirez les premiers!"
WebObjects is not open-source,
Which impact its quality.
Tapestry/Hibernate (or Cayenne) are. WebObjects provides a
supported, comprehensive, integrated solution for page templating,
database persistence, and deployment.
Except this ghettoization, does WebObjects provide anything else?
Other solutions tend to be more of a mix-and-match, multiple vendor
solution.
They also tend to use the same set of common practices. For example,
WebObjects only pretends to be in Java, while something like Tapestry
and Hibernate are in Java.
These are project-specific needs that you likely know best. I think
Tapestry has gained a lot of legitimacy from its involvement with the
Jakarta project, and looks like a great tool.
No one knows for sure what the future of WebObjects is. It's clear
from attending WWDC that it is still being actively developed and the
WO team has a vision for the future. Now if they'd only tell us... ;)
For a change.
If anything is dead here, it's the "Is WebObjects Dead?" discussions
that seem to have persisted for the past several years.
Is that not symptomatic of a deeper malaise?
If you really want to go back and read other discussions on this
matter, have a look at the Omnni list archives.
Cheers,
PA.
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