Re: Is WebObjects Dead?
Re: Is WebObjects Dead?
- Subject: Re: Is WebObjects Dead?
- From: Chuck Hill <email@hidden>
- Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 13:36:45 -0800
- Organization: Global Village Consulting, Inc.
Consider it like this: You take your car to your mechanic and ask him
to change the oil. You return and he presents you with a bill for
also changing your battery and sparkplugs because they did not meet
the standard he wants his work to adhere to. Are you happy? I would
not be. I'd never go back. I don't mind him advising me that there
are better sparkplugs which will help my performance or that a better
battery will last longer and help with cold weather starts. But the
decision to act on this advice should remain mine. It is my business
decision whether the change has sufficient value for me, not his
technical one.
Chuck
Daniel Mejia wrote:
Xavier,
I'm think that your idea to have a website 100% complaint is an
admirable idea, but some times you don't need it. Let me try to explain it.
Many times is more important the time to market.
Other times the budget is the first factor and for more discussions you
can have to try to explain you customer the benefits to have a 100%
complaint and universal tested website you can't get more money and/or
time to do the job.
Some other times you have a small audience where you can control the
type of environment that they need to have to run your application, by
example; if you have a website where your partners can access
information of your company you can specify what they need to access
your data - the OS, the browser, etc.-. (I have made this kind of
applications where my customer tell me, I want to run _only_ in this
environment).
And in other cases you have a website to allow access to some critical
data to some partner where it is important the security. In this case
you select the platform that in some cases could make the access almost
impossible for the regular user, the complaint is not important. (I
just finish an application for the police department, they don't care
and don't want that their internet application could be accessible for
everybody).
etc.,etc.,etc...
The types of internet applications is a wide spectrum, where complaint
is only a small factor, in many cases.
Saludos,
Daniel.
Message: 2
From: Dev WO <email@hidden>
Subject: Re: Is WebObjects Dead?
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 09:40:13 +0100
To: email@hidden
Steve and Chuck,
I do understand what your are saying, and I don't intend to make you
change your mind.
I'm just saying that Internet has been created for something very
important: interoperability, and freedom of choice.
If you don't make your website 100% compliant, you are slowly but
surely ruining Internet, so ROI is just one point in a global equation,
and if you want to give this parameter the entire weight of your
decision, you must understand that you're not helping your profession,
your company, or your user, but you really "hurt" everyone.
There are not that much choice we can make that don't have a political
or ethical point...
My only goal in this is to make you realize that this "small" choice
(don't make a website 100% standard compliant or just focus on
immediate ROI) will hurt your own business, your users, and everyone
else.
I have created my own company, so believe me, business is something
important, but I'm fully responsible for what I'm created:
interoperability and freedom of choice for the users, some of my
website are even accessible by people that can't see, because I just
believe that we have to take care of equity, and we also have to take
care of this tool (Internet) and the reasons why it was created. I
don't want Internet to become a "private" network, and I don't want to
prevent people for choosing their browser, the only way to do it is by
making website 100% compliant.
ROI is second after the respect of the person to me.
Xavier
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