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RE: Eclipse WOLips IDE Opinions
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RE: Eclipse WOLips IDE Opinions


  • Subject: RE: Eclipse WOLips IDE Opinions
  • From: Lon Baker <email@hidden>
  • Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 02:26:01 -0500

Drew,

I use Intellij's IDEA. I tried Eclipse due to the major shortcomings of Project Builder/, and hoped that Xcode would be a significant update that could challenge Eclipse or IDEA but was let down.

The reason I use IDEA, I enjoy the interface more, has great code completion, refactoring, and support for ant, as well as a number of other useful features. Originally I started by piecing together a build process based on an Ant script that was posted to the list, then thanks to some help from Jesse Barnum I moved to using WOProject for the build process.

I never got into Eclipse for purely personal reasons, just could not get comfortable with the interface and at the time speed was also an issue. But that was months and months ago and from what I have heard 3.0 is much better.

The major drawback of using IDEA currently is that the 5.2.2 update broke WebObjects Builder's compatibility with the old pb.project style project files. This mean you have to open the project in Xcode to get the variables and actions to show up at all WOB. As well as use Xcode if you want to use the wizards to start projects, I have simply created a default project that I duplicate to start new projects at this point.

I am crossing my fingers that in WO 6 we will get full Ant support and tools that are not dependent on Xcode to function, but that is pie in the sky at this point. I believe personally that either Eclipse or IDEA are far better tools then Xcode in the current iteration.

Since switching to IDEA I found my development time went down considerably due to all the tools built into IDEA. You will be amazed how much time you save with "real" code completion with on the fly java docs, which either Eclipse or IDEA will provide.

One other note is that IDEA has support for Weblogic and JBoss, as does Eclipse I believe. This may be important in the future if as some have questioned, Apple abandons the old deployment method in favor of one of these application servers.

Just my 2" your mileage may vary.

Lon Baker
SpeedyMac LLC
http://www.speedymac.com
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