Re: Apple WebObjects For PC
Re: Apple WebObjects For PC
- Subject: Re: Apple WebObjects For PC
- From: Pierre Frisch <email@hidden>
- Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 15:51:43 -0800
Actually There was a statement at WWDC saying that the new EOModeler is
developed in ObjC with Cocoa. When is that going to run on PC....
Pierre
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On Jan 14, 2004, at 11:23, Jonathan Rochkind wrote:
While Apple is not being at all forthcoming on this issue, the
_impression_ I get from watching what Apple does, participating in WO
communities, attending the last WWDC, etc.... this is just an
impression, I don't work for Apple, I have no insider information, but
the impression I get is....
Apple is NEVER going to update the WO dev tools on Windows. Never.
And presumably, eventually, they will officially stop supporting them.
Yes, this is somewhat annoying. The reason I started developing on
Windows in the _first_ place was becuase at the time I started using
WO, the Windows dev tools were _better_ supported than the Mac dev
tools. There was even a time around 4.5, if memory serves, that there
were no dev tools for Mac, you _had_ to use Windows!
Recently, me and my small team of developers here just switched to
developing on Mac OSX. Because, as I see the writing on the wall,
Apple is barely supporting the Windows dev tools, and this isn't going
to change any time soon. Just my impression. Which was strengthened
from attending the WWDC and talking to Apple engineers there---not
that they gave me any insider information, not that they neccesarily
know Apple's strategy here any better than WE do, but I nevertheless
came back from WWDC with the distinct feeling that I ought to switch
us to OSX as soon as possible. (for development; we continue to deploy
on Solaris).
--Jonathan
At 6:48 PM +0000 1/14/04, Jonathan Fleming wrote:
It's been a while since I've had a beef at Apple for one thing or
another, but I do sincerly hope an Apple WebObjects technician,
developer, guru or whatever you'd like to term yourselves, actually
do pick this up and respond to it.
I have a very simple question indeed, and non so hard that you can
not answer. I have a Mac which I love dearly and could not do without
in the bank of computers I utilise for development, however, the mere
nature of what we all do with regards to the world wide web
predominetly requires a great deal of checking from a PC type
platform, therefore I say (in my case) I may as well develop on a PC
type platform. For me it's the scurge of all Apple lovers, Windows,
I'm afraid. I use this patform because a Mac can convert PC objects
into it's BIG ENDIAN state whereas Mac objects can not be converted
to a PC in it's LITTLE ENDIAN state.
This isn't the only reason I develop on a PC, I'm forced to by the
hosting company I use, it's generally a case of pricing - I don't
know about now as technology moves on so fast, but I'm talking as if
this were a few years ago... - using PC or Unix servers is offered
far cheaper than that of a G4 or G5 machine sitting in a data centre.
Furthermore, server administrators are usally Unix trained and look
at a Mac with some sort of contempt so don't want to know about
administering it, they'd rather leave the whole process up to you,
configuring, processing, administering, everything... if it breakes
down they'll reboot it and that's about it, at least that's how I've
experienced it. Oh don't get me wrong, I know you can develop on a
Mac and deploy on a Solaris (Unix type) or Windows platform, but
there are certain things a Mac does that a PC just can't seem to get
it's head around and there lies a tiny little problem that can give
the illusion of an elevated crisis on a PC or a PC based browser -
again even the Mac and PC browsers of the same model such as Internet
Explorer are different.
Anyhow, that's not the real issue, what I'd like to know is when is
Apple actually going to update the PC version of WebObjects
Applications like the EOModeller App, more importantly the
ProjectBuilder App, generally the whole of the PC based version of
WebObjects... can I get and answer to this? PLEASE... It's been asked
enough times without answer. PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE let us know.
Forgive me if I've gone on, waffled about nonsense or anything of the
like, I just want to know.
Yours faithfully
Jonathan Fleming
(WebObjects Developer(PC), Avid Mac Lover(still on a G4) and
ill-fated Windows User
Ps.
If Apple hadn't got themselves into the finacial trouble they did all
those years ago when Bill Gates bought into Steve Jobs' company to
save it and thus getting his hands on the formula that drove the
Apple Mac file sytem, Windows '95' would not be here nor any of the
subsequent Windows systems and Apple could have had a real shot at
cornering the market such as Gates did with Windows.
What a difference that would have made in making a difference.
...It all started with an Apple
PLEASE REPLY...
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