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Re: OT: OpenSource WebObjects...


  • Subject: Re: OT: OpenSource WebObjects...
  • From: Arturo PĂ©rez <email@hidden>
  • Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 22:22:46 -0500

On Jan 15, 2004, at 6:43 PM, Drew Thoeni wrote:

As many have mentioned here, WebObjects is, at the very least, not getting Apple's full attention.

Being a newbie, but not having tens of thousands for a WebSphere environment, what advice would the more optimistic of you have for someone who is:

1) Trying to learn a technology that will allow one to deploy scalable, multi-user, data-driven web applications.

2) Learn a language that is "modern" and will be with us for at least a few years (i.e. Java) (what good is that powerbuilder doing me?)

3) Funding this out of personal capital (both time and money).


I've built websites using C, Perl, mod_perl, ColdFusion, some J2EE and shell scripts :-)


Most of the technologies out there let's one do what one needs to. It's just a tradeoff
of cost, time, support and maintainability. As an individual contributor the question of
what to learn in order to be employable and/or happy is a difficult one.


The job market right is difficult at best. If one prefers Java then one must be familiar
with J2EE. However, one cannot get a job unless one has 3 years of professional WebLogic or
WebSphere experience. That neatly eliminates almost all Java developers. Funny, I guess those
employers aren't really interested in actually hiring anyone.


There is a ton of interest right now in .Net technologies. But who wants to work on ASP on steroids?

Lots of Perl jobs. But my impression is that they are repetitive. Everyone wants the same thing
done over and over. Nothing interesting or challenging going on in that space.


PHP is a time-bomb waiting to happen. The issue is that the sites generated with it are so riddled
with either performance or security problems that it's a horror show.


Or one can try and do something innovative with WO. With no support, obstreperous tools, etc.

It's all just a matter of picking your poison. Mine is fruity with a bitter overtone of Java.
The urge to create is too strong and I can do it faster with WO than the alternatives.


Here's what I was able to find on netcraft.
http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2003/04/10/java_servlet_engines.html

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WO in philadelphia - wanna cheesesteak with that?
Please visit webobjects.meetup.com.
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 >Re: OT: OpenSource WebObjects... (From: Denis Stanton <email@hidden>)
 >Re: OT: OpenSource WebObjects... (From: Drew Thoeni <email@hidden>)

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