Fwd: Hill's book
Fwd: Hill's book
- Subject: Fwd: Hill's book
- From: Kieran Kelleher <email@hidden>
- Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 21:31:08 -0500
Hi Chuck,
Ideas for content:
Development System Setups and How To Configure
For example, you recently mentioned that you "deploy as you develop"
by not using Direct Connect. It would be good to see some of the
alternatives to the standard development configuration that might offer
"extreme programming" style advantages..... for example, eliminate the
"where are my graphics" and other common calls for help on the list
from someone having worked for 6 months in Direct Connect and then
tries to deploy.
Collaboration with Other Web Tools
Great to see WOLips/Eclipse and Project Wonder being included ........
please provide advice/instructions on installation/configuration tips
where the open source documentation is lacking or non-existent. If you
have advice on how to use, or why we should not use, some other tools
such as BBEdit, DreamWeaver, etc. or advice on how a WO Programmer
collaborate with or delegate effectively to a HTML/Graphic Design
person on WO Component layout/graphics.
What EO's Do I Need?
Chapter 2 might benefit from an introduction section that gives advice
and direction on how to go about deciding what classes, relationships
and attributes they need to model. While scripting perl, PHP merged
with HTML and all sorts of technologies might work well for some who
like to "jump onto the keyboard and design the project from there",
some of us, me included, would benefit from wisdom of seasoned OO
Designers/Programmers. I get the sense that poor OO Design before you
start EOModeling will make WO project painful.
In any case, better to get what material you have out sooner rather
than delay the release by adding a large amount of more information
..... you can always issue a revised edition later with additional
material that can be incorporated while folks are using the version 1.
Another possibility would be to get the book on the shelves and publish
additional/supplementary/complenetary information/topics/chapters on a
personal website ...... like those DVDs we get ......... let us have
access to the "Deleted Scenes" :-) that did not make it into the
release candidate.
Anyway, I look forward to the book ..... thanks for making the effort.
Regards, Kieran
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OS X 10.3.2 / WO 5.2.2 / MySQL 4.0.16
On Jan 16, 2004, at 6:28 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:
Hi Kieran,
Kieran Kelleher wrote:
The TOC sounds great ......... finally, some advanced literature
.......... so I have just added the pre-order to my Amazon shopping
cart!
Thanks! Suggestions for the later chapters are always welcome. We
have a long list of candidates, no shortage of material, but more
ideas are good.
Are the instructions/advice and all screenshots treated _primarily_
from a Mac OS X or Windows perspective?
We've tried to do both equally. Eclipse/WOLips is used throughout (we
use Eclipse rather than PB or XCode in our day to day work) so the
screenshots work for both. Installation instructions are included for
both. I strongly believe in WO as a cross platform solution and we
present it like that.
Chuck
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