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  • Subject: Re: Any WWDC News
  • From: Marek Wawrzyczny <email@hidden>
  • Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2004 15:23:37 +1000

On 02/07/2004, at 06:30, Trae Nickelson wrote:

Mike's exactly right. It's the old "WebObjects isn't going anywhere" argument. To the newly initiated, do go search through the archives at the Omni group mailing lists and see just how long some of us have been beating our head against the same wall. See how little has changed. See how insane we have all been for the last several years. See a few of the names go missing in some of the later posts as they realized something the rest of us had not. Consider as you read the numerous posts of frustration and pleading, that someone at Apple has surely read them too. Consider how they have smugly, blatantly ignored their customer base. See for yourself that WebObjects is truly "not going anywhere." And then decide whether YOU are "not going anywhere" with them.

Thanks Mike. No disrespect intended. We all have different boiling points.

Hi,

Yes, this discussion is a repeat of the same discussion from last year, and as archives prove the years before that.
Am I worried about whether the end of WO is near? No, I am sure it will exist for many years to come. Is the company I work for going to use it? Yes, it's a fabulous framework to use. Will I personally expand my knowledge of WO? No.


Why?

It becomes more and more apparent that WO development is going to be a OS X only affair (with the exception of Open Source alternatives). Deployment? Well, probably not but who knows? Perhaps Tom Wotecki is right about Apple hoping to make it a Server OS only product someday, but that's pure speculation.


Is Apple going to lose out on my attitude? Hack yes...

I am not an Apple fanatic. I was a Microsoft user, and I appreciate OS X as being the best OS on the market and I think WO is fantastic, but unless I see a career within the technology, I am not personally investing my time or money in it. There are other technologies, more popular and far more active and far more profitable if you make a career out of them. At the end of the day I have to pay bills somehow and if more people feel like I do, then someday not even Apple will find talented WO developers to work for them.

So Apple, market the technology, even a little. Tell us what's going to happen so we don't waste our time developing a solution to a problem that you magically turn around and implement in the next version of WO. At the end of the day, we may be interdependent on each other but if things turn too sour I can throw in the towel and move on, you as a company need people like us to survive.



Marek Wawrzyczny

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