Re: Any WWDC News
Re: Any WWDC News
- Subject: Re: Any WWDC News
- From: Georg Tuparev <email@hidden>
- Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2004 18:01:06 +0200
Folks,
All this talk gets absurd! In what times are you living? Software
industry is out of it's infancy. This means that religious and other
arguments are thing of the past. For the last 3 years or so I was not
asked a single time what tools & systems we use to deliver our
products. Our clients include some big shots from the banking industry,
online shops, telecom, etc. We even do credit card billing & accounting
for one of the major players here in the Netherlands. People ask how
fast we can deliver, how much it will cost, how easy is to admin a
Xserve - this sort of things.
Last month we got a contract with a major professional telescope
manufacturer for a complete robotic telescope software (we had already
in the past delivered solution for scheduling of robotic astronomical
observations, but now I am talking about hardware drivers,
autofocucers, adaptive optics control etc.) It is based 100% on Apple
technologies (WO, Cocoa, IOKit...). Only few years ago this would be
absolutely unthinkable - for those who never been exposed to this
market it is 80% SUN and 20% linux. But this telescope folks were just
stunned by what we can do in half year using apple technologies and
just signed without further questions.
This happens again and again. The key is not WO or JBoss. The key is to
understand that programming in the modern world is as writing and
reading - part of everyday life. We did get these project because we
have other skills like astronomy, or accounting - not because we use WO
or any other technology. But we can have these other skills, because by
using WO we can move quickly and have enough time to read. learn, and
research other things. And BTW, we are just 7 people - some of them
part time. And we all do have private life and families that we do not
neglect.
All these does not mean i am not pissed of at Apple at times. My really
hate emotions were when Apple start moving from Obj-C to Java. They
lost not only so much time, but also the cream of their developer's
team. It was completely insane move - as we can see it now, many people
are happy not to use Java and still make a nice living out of it.
Anyway, should we move this to wo-talk?
cheers
gt
On Jul 1, 2004, at 3:15 AM, Trae Nickelson wrote:
That is awesome! Your story (and the hundreds of others like it)
should be featured relentlessly and aggressively in some form of
marketing by Apple. Instead, it will die here in this mailing list
where everyone already knows the power of WO. It's ridiculous.
It's worth wondering I think - how much harder would it have been to
convince a non-family employer to agree to let you choose WebObjects?
You already had credibility with your family. They put there
confidence in your ability (rightfully so), not WebObjects. It might
have been more of a battle outside of the family business. It
shouldn't be. Doesn't have to be.
Also, your wish list would become reality a lot faster, if Apple would
create the market momentum to justify a faster development cycle.
Great work on the solution. Good luck! :-)
Georg Tuparev
Tuparev Technologies
Klipper 13
1186 VR Amstelveen
The Netherlands
Mobile: +31-6-55798196
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