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  • Subject: Re: Any WWDC News
  • From: Ashley Aitken <email@hidden>
  • Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 09:45:22 +0800

On 30/06/2004, at 6:07 AM, steve stout wrote:

The silence today was deafening! At the enterprise update there was not a
single mention of WO, just stuff about PHP, Jboss, and Tomcat. Of course
there was nothing about WO at the Keynote either. Lot's of stuff about

I wish someone would stand up at one of the Apple-Enterprise-But-Not-WebObjects sessions and ask what the hell is the deal.

I agree. It think it is especially ironic when I see posts from others (I think on a MacOSX Server mailing list) complaining that Apple should be including the "new" lite containers that are becoming extremely popular with those who are realising that full J2EE is overkill.


This person was suggesting strongly that Apple should include "lite containers" like Spring, Pico, ... with OS X Server. He either didn't know about WebObjects - probably first, and definitely the best lite container - or had written it off because of Apple's silence.

Apple was way ahead of their time when they introduced WebObjects.

It would seem that most developers just didn't understand what it was all about (frameworks, O-R mapping) but now as the developers start to understand these technologies and would take to something like WebObjects, Apple seems to be de-emphasizing it.

Of course, the same seems to be happening with Java Client (client-side business objects) and the Direct-To technologies.

I can't find any other products that are comparable (please point them out if you know of any), and only now developers are starting to grok the utility of client-side processing, XML GUI specification, and rule-based development.

Of course, I hope Apple proves me wrong.

Cheers,
Ashley.

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Ashley Aitken
Perth, Western Australia
mrhatken at mac dot com
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