Re: Any WWDC News
Re: Any WWDC News
- Subject: Re: Any WWDC News
- From: Karl Gretton <email@hidden>
- Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 19:45:55 -0700
This is all public information so I am not disclosing anything that is
'veiled in secrecy'.
CoreData was announced and is essentially a light-weight version of
Cocoa EOF. The neat thing is that we now have class modelling in Xcode
and EOF-style relationship editing. Every indication is that the WO
team will migrate the tools to Xcode, replacing EOModeller with Xcode.
The other they mentioned at the sessions late today was that they are
acutely aware of the need to rewrite WO Builder and to accept that this
will happen.
The iTunes music store leverage DTW and Project Wonder...it is actually
largely a DTW app even for the rendering of the store itself.
The guys from WOProject and WOLips along with Max from Wonder gave
presentations too.
Overall, WO remains a critical technology to Apple. They use it for
everything. The problem is that it isnt really that sexy to talk about
and isn't this years big thing.....they are working on it though.
Karl
On 29-Jun-04, at 6:45 PM, Ashley Aitken wrote:
On 30/06/2004, at 6:07 AM, steve stout wrote:
The silence today was deafening! At the enterprise update there was
not a
single mention of WO, just stuff about PHP, Jboss, and Tomcat. Of
course
there was nothing about WO at the Keynote either. Lot's of stuff
about
I wish someone would stand up at one of the
Apple-Enterprise-But-Not-WebObjects sessions and ask what the hell is
the deal.
I agree. It think it is especially ironic when I see posts from
others (I think on a MacOSX Server mailing list) complaining that
Apple should be including the "new" lite containers that are becoming
extremely popular with those who are realising that full J2EE is
overkill.
This person was suggesting strongly that Apple should include "lite
containers" like Spring, Pico, ... with OS X Server. He either didn't
know about WebObjects - probably first, and definitely the best lite
container - or had written it off because of Apple's silence.
Apple was way ahead of their time when they introduced WebObjects.
It would seem that most developers just didn't understand what it was
all about (frameworks, O-R mapping) but now as the developers start to
understand these technologies and would take to something like
WebObjects, Apple seems to be de-emphasizing it.
Of course, the same seems to be happening with Java Client
(client-side business objects) and the Direct-To technologies.
I can't find any other products that are comparable (please point them
out if you know of any), and only now developers are starting to grok
the utility of client-side processing, XML GUI specification, and
rule-based development.
Of course, I hope Apple proves me wrong.
Cheers,
Ashley.
--
Ashley Aitken
Perth, Western Australia
mrhatken at mac dot com
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