Re: Off Topic : XCode, Java and Code Completion
Re: Off Topic : XCode, Java and Code Completion
- Subject: Re: Off Topic : XCode, Java and Code Completion
- From: James Cicenia <email@hidden>
- Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 20:45:45 -0600
Well for my two cents... I was a complete newbie when I started my
project and I have to say that
I am very pleased with Eclipse. Mind you it has some idiosyncrasies but
I have learned to deal with
them in my own idiosyncratic methods. I still can't figure out how to
search all my files including the
wod files. Chuck do you know how? Also, I do have to rebuild when I
edit my wod files in WOBuilder.
Finally WOBuilder doesn't always see all the new methods in my
subclasses. Other than that it has
worked like a charm and has only crashed once on my Powerbook and we
are talking 12 hours days
of use.
-James
On Mar 24, 2004, at 8:22 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:
Where shall I start. It crashes more than Eclipse. The indexing is
painful and serves no function that I can discern. It loves to cache
out of date things in the build directory so that builds fail on out
of date problems. The project file format is too complex to fix by
hand when problems happen. The whole targets and build configuration
thing is a byzantine nightmare. Try WOProject and Ant. You'll never
go want to go back. Code completion blows. The auto/re indent works
better than Eclipse though. I hate waiting for it to build. Eclipse
stays build with every change. It is always ready to run. Clumsy
configuration of launch parameters. The debugger is lacking. Eclipse
shows errors on the fly as you type. It has an integrated class
browsers that does not hide things that Apple thinks you should not
see. xCode was not built to build Java (or WO apps). I could go on but
I've work to do.
Chuck
On Mar 24, 2004, at 2:43 PM, Owen McKerrow wrote:
Hi Chuck,
I've been using xCode for about 1 week and nothing serious at that (
going back and adding Java Doc style comments to some old code ). Im
curious as to what problems you have with XCode. Cause if its a sbad
as you say it is then, yes I will be looking at swapping. But so far
I don't see any major problems. Maybe its that I have never seen the
greener pastures and so don't know how good lif could be.
Anyways just wondering what you see as the major problems/hassles of
developing WO in XCode.
Owen
On 25/03/2004, at 4:30 AM, Chuck Hill wrote:
On Mar 24, 2004, at 7:10 AM, Jim Rankin wrote:
On Mar 23, 2004, at 7:53 PM, Owen McKerrow wrote:
For any of my complied classes ( or indeed the WebObjects classes
e.g.
EOGenericRecord ) code completion works, however it doesn't work
for
standard Java classes such as String.
My understanding is that it can complete terms found elsewhere in
the
same file. Is that what you're experiencing?
For me, however, the problem is that Java indexing makes XCode
utterly
unusable. It wants to index every single jar and class file in my
project any time the slightest thing changes, which brings GUI
responsiveness to almost a complete stop. So I have indexing turned
off now.
Is my experience shared by others? Or am I just doing something
wrong?
Well, depending on how you look at it you might be doing something
wrong. :-) I have the same experience with xCode. Usually I use
Eclipse/WOLips but have switched to xCode due to client
requirements. In a nutshell, xCode blows for WO development. I'll
have an ear to ear grin when I go back to Eclipse. You might want
to consider switching, unless you'd rather fight... ;-)
Chuck
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